Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

[-King-]

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by warrior

You do know the Jets defense is ranked above us right, Jets offense line is much much better than the Chiefs hell their recievers are betterthan ours.

Their WR's were all hurt. Their starting HB was hurt. And Geno has played a much tougher schedule than we have...

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

I don't think we would be 3-5 w/ GS. Just as I don't think the Jets would be 8-0 w/ AS.

I don't view AS as a guy that's good enough to get us to a SB...hopefully I'm wrong.

I think the biggest problem last week was Thomas can erase one of our pass rushers without help. That allows them to double Houston. They were able to drop our pass rush from FEARSOME to EFFECTIVE.

And it also looked like they watched some tape on S. Smith and knew just how to beat him.

The good news is we won't be playing the best LT in the game after this week...

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by warrior

You do know the Jets defense is ranked above us right, Jets offense line is much much better than the Chiefs hell their recievers are betterthan ours.

Wut? You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

1 Kansas City 2472 309.0 1646 205.8 826 103.3 98 12.3
2 Carolina 2110 301.4 1555 222.1 555 79.3 96 13.7
3 Seattle 2314 289.3 1473 184.1 841 105.1 125 15.6
4 New Orleans 2327 332.4 1555 222.1 772 110.3 120 17.1
5 Cincinnati 2580 322.5 1802 225.3 778 97.3 144 18.0
New England 2770 346.3 1724 215.5 1046 130.8 144 18.0
7 San Francisco 2601 325.1 1764 220.5 837 104.6 145 18.1
8 Indianapolis 2455 350.7 1599 228.4 856 122.3 131 18.7
9 San Diego 2650 378.6 1912 273.1 738 105.4 144 20.6
10 Tennessee 2359 337.0 1539 219.9 820 117.1 146 20.9
11 Baltimore 2401 343.0 1671 238.7 730 104.3 148 21.1
12 Oakland 2316 330.9 1687 241.0 629 89.9 150 21.4
13 Arizona 2740 342.5 2034 254.3 706 88.3 174 21.8
14 Pittsburgh 2120 302.9 1267 181.0 853 121.9 153 21.9
15 Cleveland 2563 320.4 1734 216.8 829 103.6 179 22.4
16 Green Bay 2318 331.1 1733 247.6 585 83.6 158 22.6
17 Dallas 3380 422.5 2523 315.4 857 107.1 186 23.3
18 Tampa Bay 2369 338.4 1707 243.9 662 94.6 163 23.3
19 Miami 2485 355.0 1716 245.1 769 109.9 167 23.9
20 Detroit 3048 381.0 2180 272.5 868 108.5 197 24.6
21 St. Louis 2749 343.6 1820 227.5 929 116.1 198 24.8
22 Atlanta 2546 363.7 1747 249.6 799 114.1 184 26.3
23 NY Jets 2520 315.0 1897 237.1 623 77.9 211 26.4

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I won't count on it because it is at best 50/50. You would give up our first 8-0 season in 10 years (and maybe it will be 10 or more years before we see another one) for what is essentially a flip of a coin. Nuts.

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

The biggest difference IMO is turnovers. Look at the difference in Cassel to Smith. The biggest difference is the turnovers. If Geno was back there turning the ball over like he is, like Cassel did the Defense probably wouldn't be nearly as good.

If the defense can win games despite the offense putting up 3 points in the 2nd half of games, I'm sure they could still make up for some turnovers from a QB who would also stretches the field.

Sure, there's field position and possible pick sixes to worry about, but some of that would be offset by a QB who can stretch the field (Cassel was the worst of both worlds... turnovers and couldn't make plays). Also, Geno's QB rating and TD/INT ratio is much worse in the 2nd half.... part of that is probably due the turnovers in the 1st half, but with a better defense, maybe they don't get behind as much in the first half so he's not pushing to catch up in the 2nd.

[l4z4rd]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Wut? You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

1 Kansas City 2472 309.0 1646 205.8 826 103.3 98 12.3
2 Carolina 2110 301.4 1555 222.1 555 79.3 96 13.7
3 Seattle 2314 289.3 1473 184.1 841 105.1 125 15.6
4 New Orleans 2327 332.4 1555 222.1 772 110.3 120 17.1
5 Cincinnati 2580 322.5 1802 225.3 778 97.3 144 18.0
New England 2770 346.3 1724 215.5 1046 130.8 144 18.0
7 San Francisco 2601 325.1 1764 220.5 837 104.6 145 18.1
8 Indianapolis 2455 350.7 1599 228.4 856 122.3 131 18.7
9 San Diego 2650 378.6 1912 273.1 738 105.4 144 20.6
10 Tennessee 2359 337.0 1539 219.9 820 117.1 146 20.9
11 Baltimore 2401 343.0 1671 238.7 730 104.3 148 21.1
12 Oakland 2316 330.9 1687 241.0 629 89.9 150 21.4
13 Arizona 2740 342.5 2034 254.3 706 88.3 174 21.8
14 Pittsburgh 2120 302.9 1267 181.0 853 121.9 153 21.9
15 Cleveland 2563 320.4 1734 216.8 829 103.6 179 22.4
16 Green Bay 2318 331.1 1733 247.6 585 83.6 158 22.6
17 Dallas 3380 422.5 2523 315.4 857 107.1 186 23.3
18 Tampa Bay 2369 338.4 1707 243.9 662 94.6 163 23.3
19 Miami 2485 355.0 1716 245.1 769 109.9 167 23.9
20 Detroit 3048 381.0 2180 272.5 868 108.5 197 24.6
21 St. Louis 2749 343.6 1820 227.5 929 116.1 198 24.8
22 Atlanta 2546 363.7 1747 249.6 799 114.1 184 26.3
23 NY Jets 2520 315.0 1897 237.1 623 77.9 211 26.4

unfortunate for the Jets defense, the pts allowed is skewed due to all of Geno's pick sixes and his fumbles in his own red zone.

[warrior]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Wut? You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

1 Kansas City 2472 309.0 1646 205.8 826 103.3 98 12.3
2 Carolina 2110 301.4 1555 222.1 555 79.3 96 13.7
3 Seattle 2314 289.3 1473 184.1 841 105.1 125 15.6
4 New Orleans 2327 332.4 1555 222.1 772 110.3 120 17.1
5 Cincinnati 2580 322.5 1802 225.3 778 97.3 144 18.0
New England 2770 346.3 1724 215.5 1046 130.8 144 18.0
7 San Francisco 2601 325.1 1764 220.5 837 104.6 145 18.1
8 Indianapolis 2455 350.7 1599 228.4 856 122.3 131 18.7
9 San Diego 2650 378.6 1912 273.1 738 105.4 144 20.6
10 Tennessee 2359 337.0 1539 219.9 820 117.1 146 20.9
11 Baltimore 2401 343.0 1671 238.7 730 104.3 148 21.1
12 Oakland 2316 330.9 1687 241.0 629 89.9 150 21.4
13 Arizona 2740 342.5 2034 254.3 706 88.3 174 21.8
14 Pittsburgh 2120 302.9 1267 181.0 853 121.9 153 21.9
15 Cleveland 2563 320.4 1734 216.8 829 103.6 179 22.4
16 Green Bay 2318 331.1 1733 247.6 585 83.6 158 22.6
17 Dallas 3380 422.5 2523 315.4 857 107.1 186 23.3
18 Tampa Bay 2369 338.4 1707 243.9 662 94.6 163 23.3
19 Miami 2485 355.0 1716 245.1 769 109.9 167 23.9
20 Detroit 3048 381.0 2180 272.5 868 108.5 197 24.6
21 St. Louis 2749 343.6 1820 227.5 929 116.1 198 24.8
22 Atlanta 2546 363.7 1747 249.6 799 114.1 184 26.3
23 NY Jets 2520 315.0 1897 237.1 623 77.9 211 26.4

Defense was ranked 5 for Jets last week chiefs 6th we went up they went dowm NFL.com

We're at 4 this week Jets at sixJets have been leading us tell this week

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

It's different now becuz it's Andy Reid! DON'T YOU GET THAT?!

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

And the flip side.... thinking that Geno is going to be a Franchise QB is disingenuous. The stats can't really prove anything about his yet except he is a rookie that can't handle the pressure yet.

He MAY BE a good QB in a few years...but he might also be just another over-hyped College QB that fails under the pressure of the NFL.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yes! Yes! That's EXACTLY what I said

Alice ball washers love to make shit up

I don't wash balls but you apparently do. This thread is for Geno ballwashers anyways and I must say you are doing a fine job.

I was all for drafting a QB but there wasn't one at 1.1 I really liked. I watched Geno Smith and at first I thought meh but I gave him a chance and watched him some more. AT one point I had myself talked into him but as time went on I just didn't like the guy. He choked down the stretch to the draft and then he has this overall douchieness that I don't care for. The more I saw the less liked. I wasn't wanting Alex Smith either but I like him more than Geno. And after watching Bray I like him more than Geno too.

At this point I find it hard to not like Alex Smith though. The fact that he's still in the NFL after all he's been through shows a lot of grit. It's amazing really because most guys would have fallen to the wayside after 5 years in the league like he had. I also think Harbaugh shit on him too and that makes me pull for the guy. And the last thing is that I'm a big boy and I understand that I don't get to pick the players and at a point I either cheer on the Chiefs or I don't. I choose to cheer for the Chiefs and Alex Smith while others choose to bleed out their vag on the internet.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by warrior

Defense was ranked 5 for Jets last week chiefs 6th we went up they went dowm NFL.com

We're at 4 this week Jets at sixJets have been leading us tell this week

That's incorrect unless you are doing something stupid like using yards instead of points?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by philfree

I don't wash balls but you apparently do. This thread is for Geno ballwashers anyways and I must say you are doing a fine job.

I was all for drafting a QB but there wasn't one at 1.1 I really liked. I watched Geno Smith and at first I thought meh but I gave him a chance and watched him some more. AT one point I had myself talked into him but as time went on I just didn't like the guy. He choked down the stretch to the draft and then he has this overall douchieness that I don't care for. The more I saw the less liked. I wasn't wanting Alex Smith either but I like him more than Geno. And after watching Bray I like him more than Geno too.

At this point I find it hard to not like Alex Smith though. The fact that he's still in the NFL after all he's been through shows a lot of grit. It's amazing really because most guys would have fallen to the wayside after 5 years in the league like he had. I also think Harbaugh shit on him too and that makes me pull for the guy. And the last thing is that I'm a big boy and I understand that I don't get to pick the players and at a point I either cheer on the Chiefs or I don't. I choose to cheer for the Chiefs and Alex Smith while others choose to bleed out their vag on the internet.

There is that line of bullshit again Like people that don't want Alex as QB don't root for Chiefs to win as much as ballwashers such as yourself.

[warrior]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's incorrect unless you are doing something stupid like using yards instead of points?

Total defense dude not points allowed we all know chiefs were first there

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

And the flip side.... thinking that Geno is going to be a Franchise QB is disingenuous. The stats can't really prove anything about his yet except he is a rookie that can't handle the pressure yet.

He MAY BE a good QB in a few years...but he might also be just another over-hyped College QB that fails under the pressure of the NFL.

You mean like Alex Smith? What Alex Smith has going for him is game day experience, he is a good leader and he is tough. But he sucks at being able to throw the ball down field, something Geno excels at. It is going to be fun to watch. So far, Geno's rookie season is better than Alex Smith's or Peyton's rookie season.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by warrior

Total defense dude not points allowed we all know chiefs were first there

Yards. Be honest than and don't try to skew shit to make your point. NOBODY uses yards when talking about defensive standings.