****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

[-King-]

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Since this game is over I have to get something off my chest. I will forever hate Danny Ainge if he trades KG\Pierce\Doc Rivers for DeAndre Jordan and a couple of draft picks. How stupid can one person be?

I'd like to see Griffin go to the Lakers....is there any substance to that rumor? I just saw it on the ticker the other day, haven't really read much on it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

In the other finals he averaged 22 ppg, 17ppg, and he's currently averaging 21 ppg.


Are you going to say he was clutch in those series? Or he played like the greatest player in the league?

I know this is going to be hard for you to grasp (being a Kobe devotee), but there is more to basketball than scoring points.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Wade's game 4 was this huge fluke performance, what does that make Manu's performance tonight?

Manu has been terrible most of the playoffs. He showed up out of nowhere. I doubt he does this again.

Wade has been terrible most of the playoffs. His KNEE showed up out of nowhere last game, and seems like it may be fine the rest of the way. He'll do it again.

Danny Green has been lights out this playoff series. He's done it consistently. And I wouldn't rule out another 5-6 3-pointer night from him.

I love how people are acting like I'm saying Wade is a bad player vs. saying that the condition of his knee has NOT made him a good player this playoffs. Until game 4. Which is completely true.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by -King-

LeBron is the biggest superstar in the league. But hey, it's unfair for us to expect him to score points in clutch situations in the finals. Clearly passing and rebounding is what we should expect from a superstar in those situations.

I remember all those 3-point 4th quarters from Jordan and Bird and Kobe and Dirk for sure!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

LeBron is one of the greatest postseason players of all time. He's 7th all-time in win shares already (above Kobe Bryant), 3rd in WS/48, and 3rd in PER. By the time his career is over, he will likely rank at or near the top of all of those marks. It's a laughable assertion to claim LeBron James is a choker.


1 for 3, yes. Not sure what losing in a series to a vastly superior Spurs team in 2007 or an excellent Mavs team in 2011 proves about him any more than his dominating win over OKC last year does.

If you want to make the claim that he's potentially the best player ever, then yes, he's choked in these finals. I don't have any agenda here, I generally like Lebron.

But for all the claims he wants to make about himself, he hasn't shown it on the biggest stage consistently.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

LeBron is the biggest superstar in the league. But hey, it's unfair for us to expect him to score points in clutch situations in the finals. Clearly passing and rebounding is what we should expect from a superstar in those situations.

we expect 6-24 and depending on Ron Artest to bail you out and Ray Allen to have the worst game of his life

that's clutch

right?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I know this is going to be hard for you to grasp (being a Kobe devotee), but there is more to basketball than scoring points.

Yep, like winning championships.

Something LeBron clearly sucks hardcore at because he wilts when the going gets tough.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

LeBron is the biggest superstar in the league. But hey, it's unfair for us to expect him to score points in clutch situations in the finals. Clearly passing and rebounding is what we should expect from a superstar in those situations.

LeBron James plays nothing like Michael Jordan. I have no idea why people expect the same kind of scoring performances from him.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Manu has been terrible most of the playoffs. He showed up out of nowhere. I doubt he does this again.

Wade has been terrible most of the playoffs. His KNEE showed up out of nowhere last game, and seems like it may be fine the rest of the way. He'll do it again.

Danny Green has been lights out this playoff series. He's done it consistently. And I wouldn't rule out another 5-6 3-pointer night from him.

I love how people are acting like I'm saying Wade is a bad player vs. saying that the condition of his knee has NOT made him a good player this playoffs. Until game 4. Which is completely true.

Green has done it consistently this series. The whole playoffs? No, not so much.

If he had shot 60 whatever percent from three the entire series, yeah, this wouldn't be a fluke performance. But he hasn't and he hasn't done it before, so I don't see how you can give him the benefit of the doubt.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls

Yep, like winning championships.

Something LeBron clearly sucks hardcore at because he wilts when the going gets tough.

Winning championships is team-based. If the Spurs win this series (as I predicted they would), it will be because they are a superior team to the Heat, not because Tony Parker is somehow better than LeBron.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

LeBron James plays nothing like Michael Jordan. I have no idea why people expect the same kind of scoring performances from him.

it's simply ridiculous

Kobe has literally very few postseason 'clutch' moments

how he was ever dubbed as a closer is just simply baffling to me

who decided that? How?

I can name 15 ****ing Finals moments alone from MJ

I can name more postseason clutch LeBron games than clutch Kobe games...

so how is Kobe Bryant some sort of postseason 'closer'?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Since this game is over I have to get something off my chest. I will forever hate Danny Ainge if he trades KG\Pierce\Doc Rivers for DeAndre Jordan and a couple of draft picks. How stupid can one person be?

Better get something for them before you're left with nothing at all but a few shells and a overpaid coach.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

Best 3 point shooters in the game? He's extremely hot right now, but lets hold the phone on that one a bit.

Will he shoot nearly 70% from three for the rest of his career?


If its not a fluke and he's always been this great shooter, why did the Spurs cut him 2?

Right now, he is one of the top 3 point shooters in the game. He shot an outstanding 43% from 3 point land during the regular season. It is not a stretch to say he's one of the best 3 point shooters in the game regular or postseason. I didn't say he was the best.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Winning championships is team-based. If the Spurs win this series (as I predicted they would), it will be because they are a superior team to the Heat, not because Tony Parker is somehow better than LeBron.

Narrow vision. LeBron was pathetic in the 2nd half of the game. The Heat probably win if he did something great instead of disappearing.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

we expect 6-24 and depending on Ron Artest to bail you out and Ray Allen to have the worst game of his life

that's clutch

right?

25.7 points per game those finals. That's clutch.