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Old 05-02-2018, 09:22 PM  
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Trump Reimbursed Cohen for Stormy Daniels Payment?

No WAY, dudes....wait, Guilanni is saying this. Friggin' pillowbiter commie transgendered outstanding citizen...

That would mean Trump bold-faced lied to cameras and the American people, on numerous occasions....no WAY. Can you believe these fascists!

Damn FAKE news drama queens are spreading more LIES!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/polit...mey/index.html

Giuliani says Trump reimbursed Cohen for Stormy Daniels payment

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Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that President Donald Trump paid back his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, the $130,000 in hush money that was used to pay off Stormy Daniels.

The payment is going to turn out to be "perfectly legal," Giuliani said in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity.

"That money was not campaign money, sorry," Giuliani said. "I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation."

Hannity replied: "Because they funneled it through the law firm?"
To which Giuliani said: "Funneled it through the law firm, and the President repaid him."

Giuliani recently joined Trump's legal team in an effort to bring special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's 2016 election meddling and any possible coordination with the Trump campaign to an end. The addition of Giuliani came following the departure of Trump's former lawyer John Dowd.

Trump previously denied knowledge of the payment, which has since spurred a lawsuit against the President.

When asked about Giuliani's comments, White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley told Fox News that it is ongoing litigation and referred the questions to the President's outside counsel.

Cohen admitted to paying Daniels out of his own pocket through a private LLC. However, Trump never signed the nondisclosure agreement, so Daniels is claiming in her suit that the agreement is now void.

"In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford," Cohen said in a statement in February. "Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly."

There have been questions surrounding the legality of the payment considering various campaign finance laws.

In January, the group Common Cause sent letters to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and the Federal Election Commission asking them to investigate the Daniels payment, calling it an illegal in-kind campaign contribution.

Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti said he was "stunned" by Giuliani's claim that Trump knew about the payment. "I am stunned and speechless. If this is accurate, the American people have been lied to and deceived for months. And justice must be served," Avenatti said.

Common Cause's Paul S. Ryan said Giuliani's comments could expose Trump to possible criminal prosecution, along with Cohen. Ryan said if Trump reimbursed Cohen that would mean Trump knew about the payment, which would make Trump vulnerable.

Ryan said despite whether Cohen was paid back, Trump's lawyer could have violated campaign contribution law, because Ryan said it appears Cohen made an illegally large in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign.

In the same interview, Giuliani also called ex-FBI Director James Comey a "disgraceful liar," and said he thinks Comey should be prosecuted.
"I know James Comey. I know the President. Sorry Jim, you're a liar -- a disgraceful liar," Giuliani said.

Giuliani then went on to say that "every FBI agent in America has his head down," because of Comey.

Comey and Trump have had a tumultuous relationship following Comey's firing. Comey recently published a memoir, which detailed his encounters with the President, and has said he thinks Trump is "morally unfit" for the presidency.

Trump, in turn, has also repeatedly sounded off on Comey via social media.

Prior to Comey's book release, Trump even insinuated Comey should go to jail, tweeting: "The big questions in Comey's badly reviewed book aren't answered like, how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail), why did the DNC refuse to give Server to the FBI (why didn't they TAKE it), why the phony memos, McCabe's $700,000 & more?"

Giuliani echoed that suggestion on Fox News, telling Hannity that Comey should be prosecuted.

"Comey should be prosecuted for leaking confidential FBI information when he leaked his report intended to develop a special prosecutor for the President of the United States," Giuliani said.

CNN's MJ Lee and Sara Sidner contributed to this report.

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Old 05-03-2018, 10:13 AM   #151
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Except nothing about this is illegal. I mean other than that you can run with it...
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:14 AM   #152
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Nothing about that is illegal. He didn't use campaign funds to pay her. End of story. Politicians pay people off all the time to keep their mouth shut during elections. That's nothing new.


I suspect you know this already, but the argument is that since the payment was made so close to the election that it was made to protect the campaign. Which makes it a campaign contribution.

And Guiliani has admitted that payment was made at that time to make it go away.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:14 AM   #153
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Remember kids, because something else illegally done by Team Trump has been discovered, all other illegal things aren't going to be investigated and don't matter.

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Old 05-03-2018, 10:16 AM   #154
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Nothing about that is illegal. He didn't use campaign funds to pay her. End of story. Politicians pay people off all the time to keep their mouth shut during elections. That's nothing new.
Who all else has been paid off to keep their mouths shut during an election?
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BLUE LIVES MATTER.... except when the investigate republicans, then they are crooked agents.
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BLUE LIVES MATTER.... except when the investigate republicans, then they are crooked agents.
Well yeah, when the OIG says they are crooked agents... So........
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I'm starting to think you don't understand how campaign fiance law works.

I'm shocked by this revelation.
I'm starting to think you haven't shown a damn thing yet that's illegal. Oh yeah, it's because you haven't.
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Who all else has been paid off to keep their mouths shut during an election?
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Who all else has been paid off to keep their mouths shut during an election?
Also keep in mind.. a lot of "hush money" has been paid with tax payer $'s. Unlike Trump..but you keep going on with your "I'm all brand new" act
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Also keep in mind.. a lot of "hush money" has been paid with tax payer $'s. Unlike Trump..but you keep going on with your "I'm all brand new" act


None of that has any bearing on this case.
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Also keep in mind.. a lot of "hush money" has been paid with tax payer $'s. Unlike Trump..but you keep going on with your "I'm all brand new" act
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Who all else has been paid off to keep their mouths shut during an election?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/polit...ent/index.html

Wow, I mean even CNN exposed not even a year ago how tax payer $'s were used in settlements.

You think those settlements didn't include a "keep your ****ing mouth shut" clause???
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Acting like you have no idea how politics works.
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None of that has any bearing on this case.
I know. Those people should be put in jail for fleecing the tax payer. Trump didn't break any laws. I agree.....
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Well yeah, when the OIG says they are crooked agents... So........
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