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Old 01-27-2009, 05:40 AM  
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93-Year-Old Froze to Death Inside Home
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93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill
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Digg Facebook Newsvine del.icio.us Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print Mon Jan 26, 3:32 pm ET Play Video AP – WW II Vet freezes to death inside his own home BAY CITY, Mich. – A 93-year-old man froze to death inside his home just days after the municipal power company restricted his use of electricity because of unpaid bills, officials said.

Marvin E. Schur died "a slow, painful death," said Kanu Virani, Oakland County's deputy chief medical examiner, who performed the autopsy.

Neighbors discovered Schur's body on Jan. 17. They said the indoor temperature was below 32 degrees at the time, The Bay City Times reported Monday.

"Hypothermia shuts the whole system down, slowly," Virani said. "It's not easy to die from hypothermia without first realizing your fingers and toes feel like they're burning."

Schur owed Bay City Electric Light & Power more than $1,000 in unpaid electric bills, Bay City Manager Robert Belleman told The Associated Press on Monday.

A city utility worker had installed a "limiter" device to restrict the use of electricity at Schur's home on Jan. 13, Belleman said. The device limits power reaching a home and blows out like a fuse if consumption rises past a set level. Power is not restored until the device is reset.

The limiter was tripped sometime between the time of installation and the discovery of Schur's body, Belleman said. He didn't know if anyone had made personal contact with Schur to explain how the device works.

Schur's body was discovered by neighbor George Pauwels Jr.

"His furnace was not running, the insides of his windows were full of ice the morning we found him," Pauwels told the newspaper.

Belleman said city workers keep the limiter on houses for 10 days, then shut off power entirely if the homeowner hasn't paid utility bills or arranged to do so.

He said Bay City Electric Light & Power's policies will be reviewed, but he didn't believe the city did anything wrong.

"I've said this before and some of my colleagues have said this: Neighbors need to keep an eye on neighbors," Belleman said. "When they think there's something wrong, they should contact the appropriate agency or city department."

Schur had no children and his wife had died several years ago.

Bay City is on Saginaw Bay, just north of the city of Saginaw in central Michigan.

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Information from: The Bay City Times, http://www.mlive.com/bay-city
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:12 AM   #16
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:12 AM   #17
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Despicable.

As you know though, we live in a capitalist country where corporate greed values profit over people. Welcome to America. MF'er can't even get a sorry bout that on his way out.
Unlike Commuinist countries where no one ever freezes to death, and they live in a world of sunshine and rainbows.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:14 AM   #18
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Good thing he had social security and veteran's benefits.
Yeah, this is pathetic. Our big ass government has all these programs and this guy freezes to death.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:15 AM   #19
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Unlike Commuinist countries where no one ever freezes to death, and they live in a world of sunshine and rainbows.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:24 AM   #20
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By the way, from the way that story reads the power company is run by the city, and not a private company. So maybe it's actually not a case of capitalist corporate greed, but government incompetence that didn't give the MFer a "sorry bout that" on his way out.
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Yeah, this is pathetic. Our big ass government has all these programs and this guy freezes to death.
You know what would make sense? Just move all the old people in cold places to Olathe.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:29 AM   #22
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I know where I live, if the outside temp is below a certain degree, regardless of what I owe they can't shut me off until the temp rises.

On a side note, the company won't be getting their $1000 now.
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I know where I live, if the outside temp is below a certain degree, regardless of what I owe they can't shut me off until the temp rises.

On a side note, the company won't be getting their $1000 now.
That's how I thought most places did it. I'm surprised they don't have more cases like this if they're shutting off people's power in the middle of winter. I wouldn't be surprised if they get sued for negligence.
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I know where I live, if the outside temp is below a certain degree, regardless of what I owe they can't shut me off until the temp rises.

On a side note, the company won't be getting their $1000 now.
They didn't shut it off. They limited it and he blew the limiter.
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They didn't shut it off. They limited it and he blew the limiter.
True - but they set it so that once he exceed the "limit", it shut him off. They put it on 1/13, he was dead by 1/17. So, in less than 4 days, he exceeded their limit and died. I'm sure dying of hypothermia isn't a quick process, so after they put it on, he was probably dead within 1-2 days. Which doesn't surprise me considering the cold that went through Michigan that week. Plus, if he hadn't paid in 10 days, they would have just shut him off, per the article.
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You know what would make sense? Just move all the old people in cold places to Olathe.
Is there a lot of hot air down there in Olathe? I thought most of them lived in Florida and Arizona already

All kidding aside, I don't pay much attention the news on this subject, but I think Illinois has some kind of law not allowing such a thing to happen.

I think there are a lot of hoops the power company has to jump through, this time of year, to shut someone off. But I could be mistaken.
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