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Old 11-12-2013, 03:09 PM  
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****The Official NEW new new conference realignment & shit talk thread****

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Old 06-10-2014, 02:01 PM   #4546
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It's possible I mixed up tweedle dee and tweedle dum. My apologies if that's the case.
wow, name-calling. You represent your alumni so very well.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:04 PM   #4547
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In your opinion, is making the most money more important than having a good program in a good conference? I don't quite understand your obsession with the school payouts. They all make a sh%t-ton of dough, dude.
When did I ever say that? The Big 12 is as good as any conference. Just look at the results.

3 teams currently in the CWS

#1 Conference RPI in basketball in 2014

2 teams represented in the 2013 BCS, outclassed only by the ACC
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:30 PM   #4548
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It's possible I mixed up tweedle dee and tweedle dum....not going to go searching through all your posts to figure that one out. My apologies if that's the case.
Then why did you ask me the question to "get me on record"? Sounds to me like you value my opinion way too much. Since I don't value yours one bit.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:55 PM   #4549
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Then why did you ask me the question to "get me on record"? Sounds to me like you value my opinion way too much. Since I don't value yours one bit.
I value your opinion about as much as I value one of those shits where you ate something spicy and it burns like hell coming out.

I was hoping you would commit to either liking or disliking the idea of BYU getting added to the Big 12, so that you couldn't flip flop on it or change your argument down the road. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:04 PM   #4550
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When did I ever say that? The Big 12 is as good as any conference. Just look at the results.

3 teams currently in the CWS

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2 teams represented in the 2013 BCS, outclassed only by the ACC
How many of those teams made title games?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:06 PM   #4551
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How many of those teams made title games?
Who knows. As a fan of a team that makes title games all the time I can tell you they don't mean all that much unless you win.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:22 PM   #4552
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So Blake doesn't care about my opinion, but he wants to get my opinion down on record. Is that classic Mizzouchebag logic or what?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:32 PM   #4553
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BYU wants in, Big12 does to want then. They are still content with staying at ten. BYU has been trying to get in since this all went down a few years ago, and still haven't been invited.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:21 PM   #4554
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But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:31 PM   #4555
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Who knows. As a fan of a team that makes title games all the time I can tell you they don't mean all that much unless you win.
by that reasoning, final fours mean even less, yet you folks tend to keep track of those pretty closely. It also appears to render your previous post fairly meaningless.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:33 PM   #4556
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But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!
Literally nobody is butthurt enough to suggest such nonsense.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:29 PM   #4557
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Obviously the Big 12 would have to find another team to invite with BYU, who is left at this point?

Getting BYU would be huge though because they have a lot of fans.
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Interesting story on how it could have shaped up if Texas had gone to the Pac 12:

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While conference expansion has slowed considerably, Luck revealed a plan he had three years ago that would have merged teams from the Big 12 and Big East conferences.

In September 2011, the Big East was stunned by the departures of Pitt and Syracuse, and the Big 12 was in danger of losing four schools to the Pac-12.

"My favorite story that hasn't been written," Luck said. "After Syracuse and Pittsburgh (announced they were leaving for the ACC), that was in the same time frame that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were playing footsie with (Pac-12 commissioner) Larry (Scott) and the Big East was a mess."

So Luck began cold-calling athletic directors at Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State with a proposal.

"I didn't know those guys from Adam," Luck said. "I knew the schools. I told them, 'Your conference may fall apart. You guys look like you might get left behind. Why don't we take all of you and TCU, which was kind of homeless."

Luck's plan, which also had the support of Louisville athletic Tom Jurich, was also to add UCF for a 12-team Big East divided into two divisions: West: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU and Louisville; East: UConn, Cincinnati, Rutgers, West Virginia, South Florida and UCF.

"I remember thinking: 'That's not a bad conference,'" Luck said. "And we would have kept the affiliation with the (Big East) basketball schools, because they loved the addition of Kansas. They (the Big 12 schools) also liked it. They were nervous as hell, too. We had a series of phone calls. That was sort of our best option."

Luck said he had three or four phone discussions with the Big 12 schools. Then-Big East commissioner John Marinatto was not involved in the discussions and no formal offer was extended, but the Big 12 schools -- if left behind by the schools headed to the Pac-12 -- were prepared for the merger.

"At that point in time, we were ready to flip the switch," Currie said.

Of course, the merger never happened. Although Texas A&M and Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC, Texas and Oklahoma remained in the Big 12. The Big 12 survived, but the Big East eventually lost a number of schools, including -- ironically -- West Virginia to the Big 12 a year later.
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But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!
Looks like both teams want to play, a condition not present with KU-Mizzou, Duke-Maryland, or Texas-A&M.
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Interesting story on how it could have shaped up if Texas had gone to the Pac 12:



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Big East would still have had an amazing basketball conference. I wonder if the tournament would still have been permanently in MSG or if they would alternated between NYC and KC.
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