Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 179

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Carlota69 · 05-20-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Are you dense? I'm not making the case for Axl as a stop-gap anymore. It's been laid out eleventy billion times already. Oh, and **** off. Thx!
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"Premium" wins, games, play etc..is more than just a stop gap. Thats winning for real, and thats what you are advocating against with you stupid ****ed up statement.
Oh, and dont worry, I **** off for a living...but with all your pent up anger, sounds like maybe its you that needs to **** off, or at least go **** yourself, since no one else is.

Carlota69 · 05-20-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We would all love Alex Smith to turn into Drew Brees. He's just being realistic.

If Alice is going to play like a top 10 QB than I would hope he falls flat on his ass Cassell style and fast so we can get started on finding the guy that can be a top 10 QB.

He isnt being realistic by saying he "doesnt want Axl Smith to have premium success". If he said, he doesnt think he will, then that would be him being realistic...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-20-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We would all love Alex Smith to turn into Drew Brees. He's just being realistic.

If Alice is going to play like a top 10 QB than I would hope he falls flat on his ass Cassell style and fast so we can get started on finding the guy that can be a top 10 QB.

And since we can, with reasonable accuracy, project this exact turn of events, better to get Clarky-poo his desired short-term wins and then get on with Bray or whomever we might draft. Yes, not being a complete laughingstock is a good start. But hovering at "acceptable" with Axl Reid for four or more years is NOT. QBOTF please...
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BigCatDaddy · 05-20-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

He isnt being realistic by saying he "doesnt want Axl Smith to have premium success". If he said, he doesnt think he will, then that would be him being realistic...

He'll have to define premium success, but the worst thing that could happen would for him to pull a 2010 Cassell and get an extension. I agree with him on that much.

He's also never played as good as a 2010 Cassell so I think that's highly unlikely.

Carlota69 · 05-20-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He'll have to define premium success, but the worst thing that could happen would for him to pull a 2010 Cassell and get an extension. I agree with him on that much.

Well, premium implies better than just success. Success of course, would be a winning record and maybe Playoff, but one and done. Premium would imply better than that...and better than that is something this team hasnt had in decades...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-20-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

He isnt being realistic by saying he "doesnt want Axl Smith to have premium success". If he said, he doesnt think he will, then that would be him being realistic...

I have said a hundred ****ing times already that I don't think he will. And now, I'm saying that I HOPE he doesn't as well. There is NO diffrence. JFC, if you want to have little fantasies about Smith and Reid conquering the world, be my ****ing guest. I however, will choose to NOT ignore facts and history to make myself feel better about this shitty ****ing trade.
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Carlota69 · 05-20-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I have said a hundred ****ing times already that I don't think he will. And now, I'm saying that I HOPE he doesn't as well. There is NO diffrence. JFC, if you want to have little fantasies about Smith and Reid conquering the world, be my ****ing guest. I however, will choose to NOT ignore facts and history to make myself feel better about this shitty ****ing trade.
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Theres a HUGE difference. If you dont think he will, then fine and dandy. but hoping he doesnt give us "premium" success??? Dude, go find another team then...Like you keep threatening to do

RunKC · 05-20-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He'll have to define premium success, but the worst thing that could happen would for him to pull a 2010 Cassell and get an extension. I agree with him on that much.

He's also never played as good as a 2010 Cassell so I think that's highly unlikely.

No. The worst thing that could happen is he starts winning playoff games and you guys have to admit that trading for him was a good move at the time.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-20-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He'll have to define premium success, but the worst thing that could happen would for him to pull a 2010 Cassell and get an extension. I agree with him on that much.

He's also never played as good as a 2010 Cassell so I think that's highly unlikely.

"Premium Success" for Axl as a Chief is defined as winning a wild card playoff game only to be promptly curb-stomped the following week. That will be enough, in Lil Chiefyville, to get him handed the keys to the kingdom. And that is un-****ing acceptable.
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RunKC · 05-20-2013, 02:10 PM

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Just curious. If you were to put a percentage on the likelihood that Geno Smith becomes a top 10 QB in the NFL, would would that number be?

Even his biggest haters probably wouldn't put that figure any lower than 30%.

Honestly? 15%

Carlota69 · 05-20-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

"Premium Success" for Axl as a Chief is defined as winning a wild card playoff game only to be promptly curb-stomped the following week. That will be enough, in Lil Chiefyville, to get him handed the keys to the kingdom. And that is un-****ing acceptable.
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Thats what you call Premium success?? I would call that moderate success...or just plain ol success. Premium, to me, would be a shot at the SB.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-20-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Theres a HUGE difference. If you dont think he will, then fine and dandy. but hoping he doesnt give us "premium" success??? Dude, go find another team then...Like you keep threatening to do

Okay then, let me rephrase the point; I hope to all holy hell that the TEAM doesn't "Dilfer-drag" his ass to what the usual collection of goddamned idiots on this board can point to as "premium success". Better?
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-20-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Thats what you call Premium success?? I would call that moderate success...or just plain ol success. Premium, to me, would be a shot at the SB.

It's what Lil Chiefy calls "premium success" because Lil Chiefy is an easy little tramp.
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BigCatDaddy · 05-20-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

No. The worst thing that could happen is he starts winning playoff games and you guys have to admit that trading for him was a good move at the time.

The worst thing that would happen would be him dinking and dunking to some playoff win where the opposing team turns the ball over 5 times. Truefans rejoice and and a 5 year extension if offered.

The best thing that could happen is he shows he can actually throw the ball down the field on a consistant basis, lights up the scoreboard and puts up 6-8 300 yard passing games this year while LEADING the team to the playoffs, not being piggy backed. Then I would be happy to admit I was wrong.

**RealSNR** · 05-20-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Honestly? 15%

And I think that's disingenuous and full of shit. You can be sour on Geno Smith without thinking it's an automatic he'll be a huge failure.

I have no ****ing clue how somebody can watch ANY of his college games (including the bad ones) and conclude that the guy has only a 15% chance of being a franchise QB in the NFL.

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