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Old 08-19-2013, 10:01 AM  
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Jon Baldwin has been traded to the 49ers

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Old 08-19-2013, 10:32 AM   #121
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Trade makes perfect sense from #Chiefs standpoint: Reid prefers speed on outside. Jenkins will give them that right away.
He is going to out-run Alex's arm.

Need Bray in there to get the ball to him downfield.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:32 AM   #122
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The best thing about this trade.

For the Chiefs, now Donnie Avery will actually see some time with the 1's
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #123
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #124
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #125
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #126
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He is going to out-run Alex's arm.

Need Bray in there to get the ball to him downfield.
No he isn't. Opposing teams proved that playing him physical, and he goes no where. You touch him and he falls over.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #127
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@TJCarpenterWHB: Chiefs have traded Jon Baldwin for AJ Jenkins of the 49ers. Thus ridding the organization of the largest reminder of Scott Pioli.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #128
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If they really wanted this trade, ask for a 1 round drop in the alex smith trade compensation owed

I see nothing beneficial w/ bringing jenkins aboard

I'm already in the 'let andy reid coach up alex smith/dexter mccluster/knile davis' camp, just don't know how many tents I can pitch in the same campsite ya know?
I don't think the Niners 'really wanted' this trade.

We both hard parts we knew we weren't going to use. SF wasn't going to give anything of real value for Baldwin.

The only question I have is what Jenkins cap figure is. Is it possible the Chiefs could've been better off just releasing Baldwin outright and using the case space on Brandon Lloyd?

I figure the Chargers will price him out of our bracket, but there are still a couple of moves (like extending Berry) that could free up some space for a run at Lloyd. But it seems fairly apparent at this point that the Chiefs aren't interested.

The Chiefs weren't going to get anything for Baldwin. They weren't going to get SF to trade down from the 2nd to the 3rd. They were unlikely to be able to get a 6th for him. His value is essentially zero so they flipped him for another lottery ticket.

Again, changing mis-matched parts is generally a good idea. If it doesn't work out, you're not out anything. The opportunity cost on a Baldwin trade is almost certainly nothing more than a 6th/7th round pick.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #129
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #131
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The best thing about this trade.

For the Chiefs, now Donnie Avery will actually see some time with the 1's
Avery and Jenkins definitely allow us to put more speed on the field
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:34 AM   #132
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AJ Jenkins is mediocre at best. Didnt get on the field very much last year.

Dropped his only target last season.

Fumbled his first catch in preseason this year.

Gimme Baldwin. We have nothing to lose at this point. If he has anything at all in the tank, it should be better than what we've gotten from AJ.

Which is nothing.
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Speed isn't just about running fast straight ahead.

Jenkins is much quicker in and out of his cuts and can get into the intermediate zones better. If you have him run a drag route from the slot, for instance, he'll likely be able to get and keep his separation as he crosses the middle (with Smith hitting him on the rollout as he clears the interior linebacker).

Baldwin couldn't get that separation; the nickle CB could break right on him and stay with him all the way.

We can use his speed.
This. Jenkins was significantly faster than Baldwin in the shuttle and 3-cone.
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