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**HemiEd** · 12:48 PM

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration

Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."

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Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick.

More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html

Brock · 11-04-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFM0K_6c6M

Yup, that’s all they talked about was groceries and never once picture it off road.

Uh, it's driving on a dirt road with some rocks on it. That's not off-road by any stretch. Hell, they probably broke it making that commercial.

Radar Chief · 11-04-2009, 03:54 PM

Here are a couple of old Explorer ads on YouTube that would allow embedding.

Brock · 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM

LOL at your idea of off-road marketing.

**HemiEd** · 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFM0K_6c6M

Yup, that’s all they talked about was groceries and never once picture it off road.

Don't be bring facts into play Radar, while they ignore whole point of this discussion.

Radar Chief · 11-04-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Uh, it's driving on a dirt road with some rocks on it. That's not off-road by any stretch.

Not all “off roading” is crawling MOAB.

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Originally Posted by Brock

Hell, they probably broke it making that commercial.

Heh, quite possibly.

Pants · 11-04-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Don't be bring facts into play Radar, while they ignore whole point of this discussion.

What facts? Are you really insinuating Ford was putting out a shit ton of Explorers so everyone could go off-road in one? lawl

Radar Chief · 11-04-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

LOL at your idea of off-road marketing.

LOL @ your idea of "grocery getter" marketing.

DJ's left nut · 11-04-2009, 04:03 PM

A) My good ol' 2000 Explorer is a great vehicle for light off-road duty. It's been through farm work and absolutely brutal snow/ice conditions and it's still humming right along. They're great vehicles.

B) It's pretty easy to say 'just throw it in neutral' but even for someone that knows how easily that's done, they also know that they're about to blow their car all to hell. Most people will exhaust all other options prior to doing so and in their attempts to do that, they may run out of time. Also, panic and adrenaline do strange things to people. I'd probably lighten up a bit.

**HemiEd** · 11-04-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

What facts? Are you really insinuating Ford was putting out a shit ton of Explorers so everyone could go off-road in one? lawl

Actually, if you read the adds, they were selling a freedom to the Yuppies.

But my point was, you have diverted this whole thread to Ford, instead of Toyota, nice.

Pants · 11-04-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Actually, if you read the adds, they were selling a freedom to the Yuppies.

But my point was, you have diverted this whole thread to Ford, instead of Toyota, nice.

All car companies suck, what's your point? Toyota and co. just usually suck less.

Extra Point · 11-04-2009, 04:08 PM

Drive-by-wire servo control goes hard over, and that causes major problems. Watch the recalls fire up! Since I own old stuff, I haven't had to fret over it. And I won't.

ModSocks · 11-04-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

See that middle video? I work there near Santee. The 125 freeway that they are talking about takes a lot of lives. It's a twisting 2 lane hwy. It's so dangerous that you are required to drive with your headlights on even during the day.

That hwy claimed the life of the daughter and granddaughter of a guy i work with.

To be traveling at 120 mph on that hwy.....that's like torturing someone before you kill them. That is awful. Really, really sad. That kinda ruined my day actually.

ModSocks · 11-04-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by googlegoogle

I don't understand how that California patrolman couldn't stop his car.

Put the damn thing in N or reverse. Jesus. Killed his whole family.

If that cop would've done a manuever to stop that car on that particular hwy, he would've killed them and himself. That is a very dangerous stretch of road.

Garcia Bronco · 11-04-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

B) It's pretty easy to say 'just throw it in neutral' but even for someone that knows how easily that's done, they also know that they're about to blow their car all to hell. Most people will exhaust all other options prior to doing so and in their attempts to do that, they may run out of time. Also, panic and adrenaline do strange things to people. I'd probably lighten up a bit.

It's not so much about saving your vehicle as it is about degrees of losing. Would you rather blow up your car or hit another at 90 and blow up your car anyway and kill yourself and probably someone else?

Radar Chief · 11-04-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Exactly. My FJ TRD performs at MOAB right off the line.

Have you ever done it?
If not give it a shot some time. My understanding is that if you’re careful of the trails take, and don’t mind dragging the undercarriage from time to time, some stock rigs can make it through MOAB.

11-04-2009, 11:44 AM
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $3310564	Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration. Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479 Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars." Share Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick. More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour. CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY. Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them. Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'. "I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal. "I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down." James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle. http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html Last edited by HemiEd; 11-04-2009 at 12:48 PM..
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3029099	A) My good ol' 2000 Explorer is a great vehicle for light off-road duty. It's been through farm work and absolutely brutal snow/ice conditions and it's still humming right along. They're great vehicles. B) It's pretty easy to say 'just throw it in neutral' but even for someone that knows how easily that's done, they also know that they're about to blow their car all to hell. Most people will exhaust all other options prior to doing so and in their attempts to do that, they may run out of time. Also, panic and adrenaline do strange things to people. I'd probably lighten up a bit. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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