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Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 AM  
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Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:23 PM   #106
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He made it to the SB with a non franchise QB and was consistently in teh playoffs.
10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:23 PM   #107
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I'll say this first, I'm a big Cowher fan. I like the way his teams perform for him, which would be a huge change to what the current Chiefs do.


However, I do get the criticisms for him.

But, seeing where the current fanbase is and the way things are going, I think the next hire will have some nostalgia with it. Like it or not, the next hire is going to be all about restoring the "fandom" here in KC. I know the best way to do that is to win and reestablish what once was.

Granted what once was, was never with a franchise QB, but thats where I'm heading with this next line of thought.

If you bring in Cowher, you can say he didn't win a SB until he got Big Ben, which is true. But in this situation, he's pretty much going to be forced to start with a QB here.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #108
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10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....
So we are throwing out anything and everything that has ever had a tie to the KC chiefs previously, when hiring the next round of coaches?
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:27 PM   #109
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Roethlesburger was to Bill Cowher what Tom Brady is to Bill Bellichick.

Without the QB, they are both Scott Pioli/RAC.

Did Cowher get anywhere with that little gadget QB? (I forget his name) Nope.

Hire another Todd Haley and get a ****ing QB, problem solved.

No thanks to Cowher for me.
Come on, man.

First six years in Pitts:
64 wins
5 Divisional Championships
5 playoff victories
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1 SB appearance (lost to Dallas)

All with jack and shit at QB. I'll take that resume. Please.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:28 PM   #110
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10+ years ago...

No thinks to rehashing yesterdays trash....
He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:31 PM   #111
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He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.
This.

I wasn't a big Cowher supporter, but i've been warming up to the idea and i can get on board.

The team will at least be tough and disciplined.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:32 PM   #112
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He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.
And by the time he's 70, we should be competing for a world championship.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:32 PM   #113
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I'll say this first, I'm a big Cowher fan. I like the way his teams perform for him, which would be a huge change to what the current Chiefs do.


However, I do get the criticisms for him.

But, seeing where the current fanbase is and the way things are going, I think the next hire will have some nostalgia with it. Like it or not, the next hire is going to be all about restoring the "fandom" here in KC. I know the best way to do that is to win and reestablish what once was.

Granted what once was, was never with a franchise QB, but thats where I'm heading with this next line of thought.

If you bring in Cowher, you can say he didn't win a SB until he got Big Ben, which is true. But in this situation, he's pretty much going to be forced to start with a QB here.
Right now KC needs that "starter coach" that a lot of college programs hire.

They know they won't hit the top 10 but this is the guy that will build the basics and get them to 5 or 6 bowls.

That's Cowher.

He'll win. He won't shock the league or reinvent the wheel but he'll win...
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #114
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He's a brilliant coach who is only 55 years old.

He comes to KC, and the organization is instantly legitimate.
I would have to be convinced he still has the desire to do what it takes to win after sitting around for the last 5 years. I really am not interested in another Dick Vermeil situation.
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And by the time he's 70, we should be competing for a world championship.
Oh, another Te'o supporter...
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #116
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It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
I don't think it would take a whole decade with The Chin & Geno Smith for us to win a Super Bowl. I am not big on Cowher, but I also know our defense wouldn't get pushed around like they do now. We would have a sollid team that gets respect again like the 90's. With Geno Smith could put us in Super Bowl contention imo. Just no damn retread QBs & I will be happy.
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Eh. I'm pretty iffy about Norv. Maybe he has a career resurgence ala Wade Phillips. I don't know though. Don't really want Cowher but if Kelly is unavailable and we're taking Geno, then fine.

I'd almost go.
HC: Jay Gruden. Jay does enjoy stretching the field vertically with AJ. Geno +PA +Deep ball=
OC: Andy Reid (if possible, doubtful IMO)
DC: Rexasaurus Rex.

This is all just off the top of my head so I'll come up with a better list later.
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I would have to be convinced he still has the desire to do what it takes to win after sitting around for the last 5 years. I really am not interested in another Dick Vermeil situation.
Vermeil had plenty of desire; his problem was that he's ****ing stupid and too loyal to really stupid people.
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