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Old 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM  
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I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:23 PM   #1921
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It leaves the question of why Penny never went to visit, though.... Bah, this is going to be the reason I'll be watching the next season (and why I have a feeling that it'll be the last season).

Rumor has it that the writers have this show planned out for 5 more seasons.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:25 PM   #1922
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Anybody checked out www.hansocareers.com yet? I don't really see why ABC is running all thes commercial for a fake company. I know there was a clue in the one they ran 2 weeks ago but I don't see anything is this weeks website.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:30 PM   #1923
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Rumor has it that the writers have this show planned out for 5 more seasons.
Perhaps they do...I just hope there's one helluva twist before things start to seem too redudant and stalled if that is the case.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:33 PM   #1924
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Anybody checked out www.hansocareers.com yet? I don't really see why ABC is running all thes commercial for a fake company. I know there was a clue in the one they ran 2 weeks ago but I don't see anything is this weeks website.

That is just marketing... if you looked at the ad, it said sponsored by Monster.com

A couple weeks ago, it was SubLYMONal.com which is sprite... and last weeks was a Jeep Ad, i believe.

Viral marketing at its finest. im sure we will be seeing more tv commerical tie-ins so that people watch more commercials instead of Tivoing them away.
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Old 05-24-2006, 11:59 PM   #1925
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The others are the good guys?
They think of themselves as the good guys. Henry seems like the type that thinks the end justifies the means, and therefore wouldn't shirk at any foul deed needed in order to accomplish that end. The late Ethan and Goodwin seemed to be the same sort.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:00 AM   #1926
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Helluva superiority complex their little cult has, isn't it? What I don't get is how Desmond's ex-girlfriend could have known to look for the electro-magnectism without already knowing the location of the island. And if it was a conspiracy, why would she have the picture of her and him next to her bed if she wanted to keep him alive on that island?
I think Widmore labs is/was involved with Dharma/Hanso/the island at some point. Penelope would be able to at least access some sort of info about the island through her father and other connections with the company. Maybe her father planned out Desmond's trip, and she learned some details through him.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:16 AM   #1927
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The themes have been laid out.

There are "good guys" and "bad guys" not based on their character but their actions.

All these characters have had choices, pinacles in their life, and based on these choices they are either worthy or not worthy of being taken by the others. The good have had opportunities to go wrong (or stay on the path) and the wrong have had opportunities to do good.

The idea of the inherent nature of man to be greedy and selfish and only dedicated to his own motives also plays into the idea of the button. To continue to push it requires the sacrifice of self (and perhaps sanity) to preserve the whole, while the motives to let the clock tick down are always selfish. Also, the idea of global warming/man-has-torched-the-ecosystem-and-now-it's-our-responsibility-to-right-it line of thinking.

Again, it's still a story about redemption, the reprocussions of our actions, and the moral journey of man.

The setting hasn't been solved because it's irrelevant. The idea is that everyone is less than the suggested 7 degrees of separation from everyone else. We're all connected. All of our decisions and actions count. Everything we do effects others in ways we don't realize at the time.

Our actions determine outcomes we can't imagine.

And even if Kate chugs days-old urine in a bottle she's still hot'ern teabagging a can of jalapenos...
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The themes have been laid out.

There are "good guys" and "bad guys" not based on their character but their actions.

All these characters have had choices, pinacles in their life, and based on these choices they are either worthy or not worthy of being taken by the others. The good have had opportunities to go wrong (or stay on the path) and the wrong have had opportunities to do good.

The idea of the inherent nature of man to be greedy and selfish and only dedicated to his own motives also plays into the idea of the button. To continue to push it requires the sacrifice of self (and perhaps sanity) to preserve the whole, while the motives to let the clock tick down are always selfish. Also, the idea of global warming/man-has-torched-the-ecosystem-and-now-it's-our-responsibility-to-right-it line of thinking.

Again, it's still a story about redemption, the reprocussions of our actions, and the moral journey of man.

The setting hasn't been solved because it's irrelevant. The idea is that everyone is less than the suggested 7 degrees of separation from everyone else. We're all connected. All of our decisions and actions count. Everything we do effects others in ways we don't realize at the time.

Our actions determine outcomes we can't imagine.

And even if Kate chugs days-old urine in a bottle she's still hot'ern teabagging a can of jalapenos...

Nice finish.
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I believe Widmore is in-cahoots with the Hanso Foundation. I believe there was an agreement that the Widmore Construction Company (seen in the backround when Driveshaft was taping a video) would "construct" the island for the Hanso Foundation and in return would receive revenues, fortune cookies, etc....I don't know. I believe we will not see much of Kate, Jack, nor Sawyer during the third season (much like Walt this season). The two men at the end were speaking Portugese, not Russian. That bird that flew out of the tree was saying "Hurley"....I turned my hearing impared captions on, and that's what it read. From what I've heard, the show creators are airing "Hanso Commercials" in 20 different countries and that fans will have to combine their various "findings" to figure things out. I know this paragraph is a mass of jumbled thoughts, but after watching that tonight.....I am indeed LOST.
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Old 05-25-2006, 01:57 AM   #1931
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I loved it except for the very end.

And I swear I heard a deep, menacing voice say "Jin" when Jack was confronting Michael in the woods after they killed the Other.
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Old 05-25-2006, 02:25 AM   #1932
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I loved it except for the very end.

And I swear I heard a deep, menacing voice say "Jin" when Jack was confronting Michael in the woods after they killed the Other.

I didn't catch that. I will have to rewind to that point and listen for it.
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Just to clue ya'll in, this is the favorite joke of the writers of "Lost":

Question: How do you keep the viewers' attention?

Response: I don't know -- How?

(Repeat question and response ad infinitum)
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I had high hopes for this finale, but it paled in comparison to the 1 hour finale last year. Many questions were answered and they finally got into the hatch last year.

So what did we learn in 2 long hours separated by commercials every 10 minutes?

1. The button is apparently real and not real because you can 'shut it off'
2. The 'viewing' station isnt real
3. The Others do not live on the island

Desmond met and got a boat from Hurleys GF--I dont remember her name--to race around the world and her 'role' which was supposed to be explained in Desmond's 1.5 hour flashback wasnt. I guess the authors decided that explaing how she got from giving up the boat to mental institution was a waste of time (pause to snicker at the irony).

Advancing the plot line in the season finale didnt seem altogether important to the writers. I dont find either of the new story lines even remotely interesting. Ohhhh...Jack, Kate and Sawyer are going to the 'others' home and Hurley gets to stumble his butt back to camp to tell everyone else to 'stay away'. What of Sayed--we'll probably learn his fate come May 2007.

A couple of things occurred to me during one of the incessant commercials...why since the 'ghost/smoke' was revealed hasnt it been seen from since, but at the same time we got a new 'creature' in the hawk/eagle?

Now that the 'button' has been shutdown, what else is there to do for Locke and Eko? Build the church? That should make for riveting 3rd season.
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What of Sayed--we'll probably learn his fate come May 2007
I didn't realize anything happened with Sayid. I thought I saw a shot of he and Jin/Sun on the boat towards the end.
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If they're even alive.

There's a blurb on scifi.com's wire this morning, and apparently the themes for next year are....(drum roll)....learning about the Others...and.... .... romance.

Yay.

Anyway, while I enjoyed the episode, I have a problem grasping the whole Desmond storyline, or, rather, the timeline. The stuff in the stadium took place 3 years before the events on the island?
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