Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 290

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

King_Chief_Fan · 09-03-2013, 05:57 PM

Holiday is a slug

**BigRedChief** · 09-03-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Holiday is a slug

That was some ugly at bats. Swinging at balls that hit in front of the plate.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 06:18 PM

Wong looks overmatched. Don't know if it would be worth putting him on the PS roster.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 06:27 PM

I absolutely hate this lineup.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 06:52 PM

Please, just scratch a couple of runs across the board you ****ers.

**BigRedChief** · 09-03-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wong looks overmatched. Don't know if it would be worth putting him on the PS roster.

He has hit well at every level. I like him better than Freese in the lineup. Freese is not hitting and he's a liability in the field.

They called up Jackson, hopefully they will give him a shot at SS. We can't do worse. Surely he can hit .240.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He has hit well at every level. I like him better than Freese in the lineup. Freese is not hitting and he's a liability in the field.

They called up Jackson, hopefully they will give him a shot at SS. We can't do worse. Surely he can hit .240.

Wong had 111 wRC+ and 120 wRC+ at AA and AAA. That's decent, but not all that good.

Freese is at 102 this year. He was 133 last year. The team is not better with Wong at second. In fact, when you put Carpenter at third and Descalso at short, the left side of the infield turns into a defensive abomination.

**BigRedChief** · 09-03-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Wacha is looking good

No matter what happens from here, there is no way and I mean no ****ing way you don't let Wacha start in 5 days.

Kelly and Wacha are your best starters right now, today. Ride em.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 07:03 PM

You ****ing pull Wacha here? JFC

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 07:06 PM

**** me.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 07:09 PM

I ****ing hate Mike Matheny.

**BigRedChief** · 09-03-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You ****ing pull Wacha here? JFC

I hate that move. Why? To give your pitcher some confidence? I'd like an explanation. I'm sure it will be asked post game conference.

scho63 · 09-03-2013, 07:17 PM

Cards have picked a bad time of the year to stop hitting and scoring runs. Good for us Pirate fans

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-03-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Cards have picked a bad time of the year to stop hitting and scoring runs. Good for us Pirate fans

Picked a bad time? This team hasn't done dick on offense in almost a month, and before a two game outburst, it was shit for weeks before that, too.

scho63 · 09-03-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Picked a bad time? This team hasn't done dick on offense in almost a month, and before a two game outburst, it was shit for weeks before that, too.

I know it's been a while, didn't realize a whole month. Our pitching has been choppy for the same amount of time. Jeff Locke, our All Star hasn't won a game since All Star break and his ERA is about 7.50 since the break. Our newly acquired guys from the Mets and Twins are doing good.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3239627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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