Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 16

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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BigCatDaddy · 05-06-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

by golly gee I'm so mad we traded Brandon Flowers and Dexter McCluster or Daryn Colledge and Greg Jennings for Alex Smith.

we should have just kept the picks and given Stanzi his shot!

Nice straw man.

ChiliConCarnage · 05-06-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

god forbid our new regime comes in and wants to get the best available QB

did I miss this extension they gave him?

seems like he's playing on a team friendly contract and if he blows; he blows

I missed this big extension he was given I guess.

are you carrying on one conversation as Hootie in this thread... ?

and another as the Talking Can?

you both have the exact same posting style and it's pretty unique...

you both like to use ellipses a lot even before or after questions marks

you tend to use lower case letters to start new sentences but capitalize nouns

you like to post in quick sentences a lot followed by double or triple spaces

I can't imagine any person doing that but when scrolling through this thread they looked incredibly similar

ChiefsCountry · 05-06-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

FLIP SIDE

what if he's good?

what if his success the last few years developed some confidence and swagger and suddenly he plays a lot like Trent Green?

you guys play your what if games and I'll play mine

he only ended his season on an absolute tear...playing the best football of his life

He played well but he never threw the ball and when he did they lost. Andy Reid since 1999 has averaged 35 pass attempts per game. Smith only did that once last year and lost. He threw the ball 30 or more times 3 times. They went 1-2. 3 TDs and 4 Ints. If Reid plays normal Reid football we are screwed. If Reid plays MartyBall we might win some games.

Lex Luthor · 05-06-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

There is the problem.
With the best running game in the NFL, Trent Green didn't win a playoff game. I don't want to settle for another Trent Green.

But hey, at least they had that 13 and 3 season and the 9 and 7 back into the playoffs year! Woot!

Now cue up the "defense sucked so bad that they didn't win in the playoffs" posts. Last I checked, the Colts didn't make the Chiefs punt either, but they won!

The definition of going full reerun: Blaming Trent Green for losing in the playoffs when the offense was great and the defense was among the worst in the NFL.

Hootie · 05-06-2013, 12:20 PM

we wouldn't settle for another Trent Green?

BigCatDaddy · 05-06-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Did the Falcons bend over the Texans when they got Schaub? They got 2 2nd round picks too. It's the going rate for QB's

No. Schaub wasn young and has upside and can throw the ball downfield. Schaub > Smith

Hootie · 05-06-2013, 12:21 PM

If Alex Smith gave us what Trent Green gave us that was an absolute STEAL of a trade for us.

The Rams selected Damione Lewis with our 1st for Trent.

This is a DaneMcCloud argument. He said the trade for Trent was a fail because we didn't win. He also said the 4th for Roaf was a fail for the same reason.

and I continue to say that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard

Titty Meat · 05-06-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

yep

because Daryn Colledge and Greg Jennings would have turned this franchise around

You would take a few seasons of an average QB over 10 years of production from the other 2 mentioned?

Hootie · 05-06-2013, 12:22 PM

I would say Matt Schaub is a fair comparison to Alex Smith.

I think Alex Smith can be Matt Schaub.

Not sexy, I agree. It would take a total team effort for us to do any real damage in games that matter. I get that.

but someone please point to a QB this year that the Chiefs could have gotten that fits the mold of someone better than Trent Green

BigCatDaddy · 05-06-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

FLIP SIDE

what if he's good?

what if his success the last few years developed some confidence and swagger and suddenly he plays a lot like Trent Green?

you guys play your what if games and I'll play mine

he only ended his season on an absolute tear...playing the best football of his life

That tear avg'd about 180 yards per game passing.

ChiefsCountry · 05-06-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If Alex Smith gave us what Trent Green gave us that was an absolute STEAL of a trade for us.

The Rams selected Damione Lewis with our 1st for Trent.

This is a DaneMcCloud argument. He said the trade for Trent was a fail because we didn't win. He also said the 4th for Roaf was a fail for the same reason.

and I continue to say that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard

Of course the other option was Drew Brees, who was the #1 number player on our draft board at that slot.

**HemiEd** · 05-06-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

The definition of going full reerun: Blaming Trent Green for losing in the playoffs when the offense was great and the defense was among the worst in the NFL.

Read much? Please show me where I blamed him.
He just wasn't good enough to overcome a bad defense.
He wasn't as good as he needed to be, but Peyton Manning was.
I want a QB that is ****ing good enough to win in the playoffs no matter the hand he is dealt! Like a Joe Montana or similar.
Why do the Chiefs always have to wear "hand me down clothes" with holes in them?

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Originally Posted by Hootie

we wouldn't settle for another Trent Green?

That is what you want? Well if it is, Alex Smith just might be able to reach that lofty goal. Enjoy. The legend continues to grow.

Lex Luthor · 05-06-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Read much? Please show me where I blamed him.
He just wasn't good enough to overcome a bad defense.
He wasn't as good as he needed to be, but Peyton Manning was.

That is what you want? Well if it is, Alex Smith just might be able to reach that lofty goal. Enjoy. The legend continues to grow.

So now Peyton Manning is the standard? If a quarterback isn't Peyton Manning, he's not worth acquiring?

News flash: There were no Peyton Mannings or Joe Montanas available this year either in free agency or the draft. The closest thing out there is going to start for the Chiefs next season.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-06-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Most of the people complaining about 2 second round picks for Alex Smith would have loved the reach-tastic risk of using the 1.1 on Geno Smith. Good grief.

Well, like all the world-beating champions say, "if you're going to reach in this league, DEFINITELY reach for a Tackle or 5-tech", yes.
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Hootie · 05-06-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Of course the other option was Drew Brees, who was the #1 number player on our draft board at that slot.

which is all fine and dandy if you try and forget Drew Brees was a bust and San Diego drafted Eli Manning

he was benched for Doug Flutie

they gave up on him

Rivers' holdout gave him one last chance and he took it and ran.

05-06-2013, 07:21 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3696009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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05-06-2013, 12:20 PM	#230
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	we wouldn't settle for another Trent Green?
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05-06-2013, 12:21 PM	#232
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	If Alex Smith gave us what Trent Green gave us that was an absolute STEAL of a trade for us. The Rams selected Damione Lewis with our 1st for Trent. This is a DaneMcCloud argument. He said the trade for Trent was a fail because we didn't win. He also said the 4th for Roaf was a fail for the same reason. and I continue to say that's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard
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05-06-2013, 12:22 PM	#234
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I would say Matt Schaub is a fair comparison to Alex Smith. I think Alex Smith can be Matt Schaub. Not sexy, I agree. It would take a total team effort for us to do any real damage in games that matter. I get that. but someone please point to a QB this year that the Chiefs could have gotten that fits the mold of someone better than Trent Green
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