Denver - LMAO John Fox is a moron

[CoMoChief]

What a Herm Edwards move.

It's 3rd n 7 and you have a chance to WIN THE ****ING GAME with a 1st down and you run the ball when you have Peyton Manning as your QB?

That so backfired in his god damn face I about rolled off the couch laughing. He should be fired for that.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

On that same token, no one other than CoMo is really backing you up. In the game thread, the only other person that made a big deal out of it was KC_Connection.


CoMo and KC_Connection are not a group of people I'd be proud to have on my side...

A broken clock is right twice a day.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by milkman

It really isn't a contradiction.

I don't care if it's Matt Cassel in that situation, I am going for the first down.

I know full well that the chances are very good that Matt Cassel ****s up, but I am going down swinging, regardless.

I am not going to throw in the towel.

Playing not to lose leads to losing.

I'd rather lose aggressively than lose like a pussy.

I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by -King-

I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.

and Marty is your favorite coach

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.

In a passing league,where all the rules favor the offense, especially inside of two minutes, it is absolutely playing not to lose.

[Hootie]

remember when BB went for it on 4th and 2 in their own territory to try and keep the ball out of Manning's hands only for Indy to stop them and then drive 30 yards for the win?

that was highly criticized

but at least Belichick realized he had a chance to win it right then and there and he rather trust his guy to get 2 yards and not have to trust his defense to keep Peyton out of the end zone

this was 3RD DOWN...all he had to do was complete a 7 yard pass...and they win

but instead you think punting (where a number of things could go wrong as well) and giving Joe Flacco 75 seconds (he can throw 65 yards no problem) is a better way to win the game.

[O.city]

Denver also had a top 3 defense this year, where as that Pats D was asshole.


I get what you are saying and I might have threw the ball there, but what he did was understandable.

[Hootie]

at the very least they had a 50/50 chance of winning the game right then and there with a pass...and had he thrown an incompletion or even an interception...they still would have been in a similar spot as they were when they allowed the touchdown anyways

look if the other QB was Mark Sanchez or Matt Cassel sure, go ahead and run and punt

but Flacco did the same thing last year to New England, has a freaking cannon, and had receivers who were abusing the Denver secondary in passing situations

I'm taking my chance with a 7 yard pass over watching Torrey Smith potentially rape Champ ALL PRO Bailey again

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by O.city

Denver also had a top 3 defense this year, where as that Pats D was asshole.


I get what you are saying and I might have threw the ball there, but what he did was understandable.

it was 1990s play not to lose ball

the sooner people figure out this is a total passing league the smarter this world will be

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by -King-

I don't consider running the ball on 3rd and 7 with less than 2:00 left and with the opponent having no timeouts playing not to lose.

And a 7 point lead.

If I were a Bronco fan, I'd probably be pissed as hell that the Ravens scored to tie the game. Should have never ever happened. The QB slightly underthrew the WR too. Morris really screwed the pooch on that play.

But I might have been even more pissed if we would have passed... had it be incomplete... and have the Ravens tie it right at the end due to the extra time on the clock.

Even if the first down does seal the deal.

[O.city]

I think alot of it also had to do with the fact that Manning just doesn't have the arm strength or didn't last night in the cold.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by milkman

In a passing league,where all the rules favor the offense, especially inside of two minutes, it is absolutely playing not to lose.

Don't agree. I think it was a smart decision to hand it ver to the defense given the situation.

You just wouldn't expect the defense to make that major of a bluunder... rules favoring the offense be damned.

[Hootie]

if I were a Bronco fan and the MVP of the league was my QB and we didn't play to win the game on 3rd and 7, I'd expect exactly what happened to happen because it's terrible coaching.

[Hootie]

I do agree that that safety made the worst play in the history of the world...

but did they forget about the end of the 1st half when they played prevent defense and Flacco threw a pretty easy TD anyways?

I mean, come the **** on. If you have an elite QB in today's NFL you throw the ball on 3rd and 7 to WIN THE GAME THEN AND THERE.

You also tell the QB to make a good decision, to not throw the ball away, and if nothing is open to take the sack or fetal up.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Don't agree. I think it was a smart decision to hand it ver to the defense given the situation.

You just wouldn't expect the defense to make that major of a bluunder... rules favoring the offense be damned.

Do you not understand?

Even Steve Bono led the Chiefs on (what was it) a 76 yard TD drive with less than a minute and a half on the clock a few years ago, even before the rules were tweaked to favor offense.

That blunder very likely only shortened the length of time the TD took.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

if I were a Bronco fan and the MVP of the league was my QB and we didn't play to win the game on 3rd and 7, I'd expect exactly what happened to happen because it's terrible coaching.

I happen to think they did play to win the game with that decision. And for all intents and purposes, they did have it won. 40 seconds or so to go. Ravens on the 30. No timeouts. TD to tie. You couldn't have been setting there thinking the Broncos had ****ed up.

It's easy after the fact to look back as say they should have tried the pass.