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**Saul Good** · 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

**TribalElder** · 09-10-2013, 04:50 PM

Of course pinkel wants to play KU at the beginning of each season

everyone needs a few easy wins to pad the stats right

**Saul Good** · 09-10-2013, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'll skip over all the other bantering and just say - likely sooner rather than later.

The simple truth is that Kansas needs a compelling matchup on their schedule. It's not going to happen until the program is at least somewhat on the right track, but it's going to happen eventually.

Their schedule is just ridiculously bad. When the toughest ticket...home or away...is at Rice, you've got a problem.

Bambi · 09-10-2013, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

The simple truth is that Kansas needs a compelling matchup on their schedule. It's not going to happen until the program is at least somewhat on the right track, but it's going to happen eventually.

Their schedule is just ridiculously bad. When the toughest ticket...home or away...is at Rice, you've got a problem.

Kansas plays a round robin conference schedule which includes 4 currently ranked teams. Two more against instate rival (KSU) and the highest valued football program in America (UT). You've got a strange definition of "ridiculously bad".

Kansas this year and last year had a strength of schedule ranked in the top 10 by all major ranking systems.

Missouri on the other hand plays 5 ranked team this year.

Judging on the crowd that showed up at Missouri this weekend I would say you're the one with the problem.

Prison Bitch · 09-10-2013, 06:34 PM

I assume Saul means based on possible fan interest. In terms of caliber, okla Ksu tech and wvu are better programs and Baylor has been stronger the past few years. So I'd agree the casual fan would porbably prefer to see Mizzou but I don't recall many if any years that the game even sold out at Lawrence.

**Saul Good** · 09-10-2013, 06:36 PM

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ansas-jayhawks

Here's the schedule showing the starting ticket prices.

Al Czervik · 09-10-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yeah...Kansas has ducked us for years, but Mizzou should be embarrassed? Hardly. Enjoy that riveting schedule...not that it matters who Kansas plays. It's just so darned hot outside.

Maybe you misunderstood.....
Every time the AD or HC talks to the KC Media, they are begging to resume the series.
Like the Jilted Boyfriend, they just cant take no for an answer.
Clearly, MU "needs" this game while KU doesn't.
Might want to wonder why that is......

Prison Bitch · 09-10-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'll skip over all the other bantering and just say - likely sooner rather than later.

I've taken the opposite view but I'd remind you that the border war historically didn't draw all that well. I went to some games on both campuses over the years that were like going to the morgue. In the 80s we both sucked hard but even in the 90s it didn't sell. In 1995 KU was top 10 and had empties and the next year in Columbia there might've been 30k. Just never sold we'll until 2007.

**Saul Good** · 09-10-2013, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

Kansas plays a round robin conference schedule which includes 4 currently ranked teams. Two more against instate rival (KSU) and the highest valued football program in America (UT). You've got a strange definition of "ridiculously bad".

Kansas this year and last year had a strength of schedule ranked in the top 10 by all major ranking systems.

Missouri on the other hand plays 5 ranked team this year.

Judging on the crowd that showed up at Missouri this weekend I would say you're the one with the problem.

I don't mean weak. I just mean boring. Nobody comes out to see Baylor or Oklahoma State nor TCU. Those are just games. Rivalry games are events.

57,000 is a shitload more than you got in your opener. Let's see how many show up for your second home game against LA Tech. Maybe next year you can advertise the opportunity to see the most valuable program in college football, though. That's more compelling than Bama, I guess.

Bambi · 09-10-2013, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ansas-jayhawks

Here's the schedule showing the starting ticket prices.

Don't blame me. Most of the KU fans I know have spent all their money on Atlantis, Champions Classic and Jerry World.

Prison Bitch · 09-10-2013, 06:47 PM

Tee shirt seen at faurot Saturday. "I survived the heat wave and all I got was this lousy opponent?"

**Saul Good** · 09-10-2013, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

Maybe you misunderstood.....
Every time the AD or HC talks to the KC Media, they are begging to resume the series.
Like the Jilted Boyfriend, they just cant take no for an answer.
Clearly, MU "needs" this game while KU doesn't.
Might want to wonder why that is......

Kicking your rival's ass is fun. Challenging them to play gets the fanbase going a lot more than hiding inside with the lights off does.

**Saul Good** · 09-10-2013, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

Don't blame me. Most of the KU fans I know have spent all their money on Atlantis, Champions Classic and Jerry World.

Looks like the talent was good even well before game time. Nice

HolyHandgernade · 09-10-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The simple truth is that Kansas needs a compelling matchup on their schedule. It's not going to happen until the program is at least somewhat on the right track, but it's going to happen eventually.

Their schedule is just ridiculously bad. When the toughest ticket...home or away...is at Rice, you've got a problem.

Horse Hockey!

Doesn't seem to be impacting Baylor much and their OOC is worse than ours. The "strength" of the OOC has very little to do with a team's fortunes. If fans perceive it as a winning (or at least improving) team, they'll come out to watch. Kansas football is not a "needle mover" and most likely will not achieve that status.

We don't need a "compelling matchup" we need to be competitive in the B12, that's it. I have trouble following your logic. First, you say we "need" a compelling matchup", then, you say it isn't likely to happen until the program gets better, then you go back to the present schedule? Why? Wouldn't it have been more consistent if you were looking at KU's future opponents when you moved to your second point than rehashing the first?

With that in mind, in 2014 we play at Duke, not necessarily a football masterpiece, but it has the "compelling" basketball schools playing each other in football angle. In 2015 we're at Rutgers, in 2016 we host Hawaii, we go to the Aloha State in 2017, and then host Rutger in 2018.

Admittedly, its not the kind of stuff "Gameday" is going to have to choose between, but I really do't know what else you expect by something "compelling". Unless KU is ranked, the only fans that are going to be "compelled" to watch are KU fans and fans of the other team. But, I would hazard to guess, its not much different for the majority of schools out there. Only a handful of teams represent programs a fan base outside the participants would find at least a casual interest in. Those teams are NOT Kansas, Kansas St or Missouri.

You want to know how Kansas can be "compelling"? Its only if their good, because Charlie Weis, love him or hate him, is the type of personality that elicits a response. If Kansas is good, they'll be compelling because Weis is the "name" coach who brought the program back when no one really thought he could head coach his way out of a paper bag. That's the reason KU might be compelling, it has absolutely nothing to do with an OOC opponent.

**TribalElder** · 09-10-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

Kansas plays a round robin conference schedule which includes 4 currently ranked teams. Two more against instate rival (KSU) and the highest valued football program in America (UT).

Texas is RAPING the other members of the conference

78 Million in profit

http://www.forbes.com/special-report...-football.html

HolyHandgernade · 09-10-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Texas is RAPING the other members of the conference

78 Million in profit

http://www.forbes.com/special-report...-football.html

Ummmmm, they've always done that. That's why they're the richest athletics program in college sports. Was this really news to you?

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09-10-2013, 06:34 PM	#8104
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	I assume Saul means based on possible fan interest. In terms of caliber, okla Ksu tech and wvu are better programs and Baylor has been stronger the past few years. So I'd agree the casual fan would porbably prefer to see Mizzou but I don't recall many if any years that the game even sold out at Lawrence.
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09-10-2013, 06:36 PM	#8105
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ansas-jayhawks Here's the schedule showing the starting ticket prices. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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