League with "OP" instead of "flex"

sedated · 08-30-2011, 05:53 PM

So my new league doesn't do "flex" (QB/WR/TE), it has "OP" (any offensive player). Meaning you can play 2 QBs.

On a scale of 1-10, how reeruned is that? (1 = slight speech impediment, 10 = full reerun)

How would it affect your draft strategy?

(if we want to get detailed, it is a full PPR)

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-30-2011, 06:26 PM

It's a 10. Full reerun.

Hootie will be here shortly to tell you why it's the best format going.

sedated · 08-30-2011, 08:26 PM

poll fail, apparently.

MoreLemonPledge · 08-30-2011, 10:02 PM

I wouldn't touch a league like that. How many points for passing TD?

ChiefsCountry · 08-30-2011, 10:10 PM

Hooter says its the future of fantasy football.

**Old Dog** · 08-31-2011, 07:30 AM

I guess whatever works for a given set of folks. Hell, if your league wants to draft punters and give a point per yard, do 1 point per yard for FGs for kickers, and draft IDPs and make tackles worth 5 points, who am I to say that's stupid? If it works for you, so be it.
Now, if the question is more along the lines of, "Would I play in a league like that?" No, it's reeruned.

If I were to though, as far as draft strategy, I would make damn sure I had 3 starting QBs, including one of the "Big 6" if at all possible. It significantly increases the QB value.

**Nzoner** · 08-31-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog

I guess whatever works for a given set of folks.

Just to make the draft more interesting I'm in a local money league that drafts coaches.You start 1 per week,if his team wins you get 5 bonus points and 0 for a loss.It's amazing how many of our games come down to that 5 point swing.

sedated · 08-31-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

How many points for passing TD?

5

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-31-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog

I guess whatever works for a given set of folks. Hell, if your league wants to draft punters and give a point per yard, do 1 point per yard for FGs for kickers, and draft IDPs and make tackles worth 5 points, who am I to say that's stupid? If it works for you, so be it.
Now, if the question is more along the lines of, "Would I play in a league like that?" No, it's reeruned.

If I were to though, as far as draft strategy, I would make damn sure I had 3 starting QBs, including one of the "Big 6" if at all possible. It significantly increases the QB value.

I kinda like the idea for giving placekickers points based on yardage.

Something like .10 per yard.

Would be interesting in a league that uses fractional scoring.

Otherwise, you could just go to a 3-4-5 system.

**Nzoner** · 08-31-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I kinda like the idea for giving placekickers points based on yardage.

Something like .10 per yard.

Would be interesting in a league that uses fractional scoring.

Otherwise, you could just go to a 3-4-5 system.

My local leagues use fraction scoring for defenses on INT and fumble recovery yardage.Makes it real exciting when your team takes a 60 yd int return to the house.

DJ's left nut · 08-31-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hooter says its the future of fantasy football.

Only real badasses play OP ball.

If you don't, you're not hardcore.

**The Franchise** · 08-31-2011, 08:58 AM

I look at a flex position as being between a RB, WR and TE. If you want to be able to start 2 QBs....then make starting 2 QBs mandatory.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-31-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I look at a flex position as being between a RB, WR and TE. If you want to be able to start 2 QBs....then make starting 2 QBs mandatory.

Glad you mentioned this. I had accidently set rosters in the CP league for RB/WR instead of a true "flex."

Hootie · 08-31-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's a 10. Full reerun.

Hootie will be here shortly to tell you why it's the best format going.

I'm disappointed you think that...

I'm trying to get a real answer one time, and I know you can provide one because you're usually a pretty thoughtful dude with insight...

why do you think FFL is better when you only have to start 8, 10 or 12 (depending on league size) of the 32 NFL QB's rather than 16, 20, or 24?

Lets assume we are doing a 12 team league...don't you think it makes more sense and makes the QB position more meaningful when you're starting 75% of the QB's in the NFL every week rather than 30%?

Why is it so offensive that 4 QB's might go in the 1st round rather than 1? and 8 in the first 2 rounds rather than 3?

Isn't the QB position pretty damn important? Wouldn't drafting Cam Newton or having someone reach for him hoping he's the next Vick or McNabb be kind of fun? (Instead of him going undrafted?)

and in my first OP league (non keeper) some dude decided he didn't want QB's and now has Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson, Darren McFadden and LeGarrette Blount (and with a RB, RB, RB/WR and an OP he can start all 4)...

and my first two picks were Tom Brady (5th) and Tony Romo...

the strategies are endless...rather than traditional 1 QB leagues where you can wait until the very last round (before a K and DEF at least) and just pick sleeper QB's...because you know guys like Cassel won't be drafted...and a Cassel/McNabb tandem can probably produce 80% of the points a Peyton Manning will this year...

I know I'm me and people hate me and like to argue with me...but no one has made 1 good point about why an OP league is a bad league other than the fact they've never tried it and hate change.

**Old Dog** · 08-31-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I know I'm me and people hate me and like to argue with me...but no one has made 1 good point about why an OP league is a bad league other than the fact they've never tried it and hate change.

Like I said, if you and your buddies think it's good, more power to you, but in most leagues (even with 4 points per passing TD) QBs will outpoint RBs or WRs by a huge margin* so it would be asinine to not start a QB in the OP slot. Given that a 12 team league won't allow the 2QBs and a backup QB for each team, I don't like it.
As for the never tried it, I've done it and won at it. Was in a roto league where the settings gave a point per pass attempt (dumber than shit, but those were the rules) and you had 2 offensive player positions (all other scoring was standard). My first six draft picks were QBs and people were making fun of me for it not understanding what I was doing. On a 18 player roster I ended up with 8 starting QBs. During the year I traded three of my crap QBs for top flight WRs and a stud RB. In the end I outpointed everyone else in the league by over 750 points. I've done it, it just wasn't much fun.

*Newton as the 25th ranked QB is projected at 225.7, better than all but the top 7 RBs (Foster, Charles, Rice, CJ, AP, McFadden, MJD) and better than any WR

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08-30-2011, 05:53 PM
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08-30-2011, 06:26 PM	#2
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08-30-2011, 10:02 PM	#4
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08-30-2011, 10:10 PM	#5
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08-31-2011, 07:30 AM	#6
Old Dog Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Central Kansas Casino cash: $4766131	I guess whatever works for a given set of folks. Hell, if your league wants to draft punters and give a point per yard, do 1 point per yard for FGs for kickers, and draft IDPs and make tackles worth 5 points, who am I to say that's stupid? If it works for you, so be it. Now, if the question is more along the lines of, "Would I play in a league like that?" No, it's reeruned. If I were to though, as far as draft strategy, I would make damn sure I had 3 starting QBs, including one of the "Big 6" if at all possible. It significantly increases the QB value.
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