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**RealSNR** · 03-07-2013, 05:43 PM

People are throwing this idea around a lot. Donald Stephenson and Jeff Allen get a shot at starting RT. Branden Albert should move from left to right. Jake Long should sign as a RT. Meanwhile, the Packers are openly entertaining the idea of moving Bryan Bulaga to from RT to LT, figuring that their best lineman on the roster needs to play the most important position.

My only experience with watching these side switches occurred in 2002 where John Tait moved over to RT to make room for Willie Roaf. Oh, and also when Damien McIntosh moved from LT to RT to make way for Branden Albert, but nobody really gives a shit about that.

However, I do remember the John Tait thing being considered a big deal. Tait did offseason interviews at OTAs and at training camp where he explained the sheer amount of work that is involved in making the switch. It's a muscle memory thing. You're taking everything you learned how to do with your right and left hands and feet and flip-flopping it all. Not only do your responsibilities in terms of the playbook change, but the entire TECHNIQUE is different, and requires careful, repetitive drills to be hammered out so the switch goes smoothly.

So my question is am I accurate with that description of making the switch? Or am I (and Tait) blowing shit out of proportion? Because to me, it seems like Albert is pretty resistant to making that change not only for the money and for his personal pride as a premier LT in the league, but also because he probably doesn't feel like re-learning how to play the tackle position in one offseason, where he would then potentially have to leave the team if the Chiefs want to go in a different direction. Why put in the work if the results aren't worth it, after all?

penbrook · 03-07-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

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Thats a good thing.

However he said we COULD draft Joeckel and he would play RT. But #1 for a RT dont see it.

**RealSNR** · 03-07-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Ian Rappoport just said that the Chiefs view Albert as their long term answer at LT and Albert will not play RT.

If that's their intention, there's no way we draft one of the LTs at 1.1. Hell, I don't even think we'll take them if we trade down.

-King- · 03-07-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Isn't that a good thing?

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Originally Posted by candyman

Why? Hopefully this means we dont have to worry about taking a Tackle. I seriously doubt they would draft Fisher or Joker and make them play RT.

It's Ian Rapoport.

Sorter · 03-07-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Thats a good thing.

However he said we COULD draft Joeckel and he would play RT. But #1 for a RT dont see it.

Ian Rapeaport is consistently wrong.

penbrook · 03-07-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Ian Rapeaport is consistently wrong.

He said we could. Didnt say we are.

ChiefRocka · 03-07-2013, 06:44 PM

Maybe Albert will be OK playing guard like in his college days...

**RealSNR** · 03-07-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

He said we could. Didnt say we are.

He wasn't wrong when he said the Chiefs "could" hire Kirk Ferentz, even with all this Andy Reid talk going on.

tk13 · 03-07-2013, 06:56 PM

John Tait did it and our offense was awesome!

Seriously though... he did end up moving to RT here, but he signed with Chicago for big money and still played LT.

**pr_capone** · 03-07-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

John Tait did it and our offense was awesome!

Seriously though... he did end up moving to RT here, but he signed with Chicago for big money and still played LT.

No... that can't be right. Once people get moved to RT they are stuck at that pay grade and position permanently. /Cephalic Trauma

patteeu · 03-07-2013, 07:21 PM

I'm with Direckshun and pr_capone on this. RTs love to make the switch to the higher paid position. LTs hate to make the switch to the lower paid position. It takes some work to switch, but any of the most physically talented guys (i.e. the LTs) should be able to do it, particularly if they have an offseason to work at it.

Bouncing back and forth on a game to game basis is probably not the best idea though.

patteeu · 03-07-2013, 07:23 PM

BTW, how many NFL wide receivers are strictly right side or left side receivers? Zero?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-07-2013, 07:53 PM

Anyone claiming that spending the one/one on Joekel and then moving him to RT is a move to be applauded much less defended needs to seriously go **** themselves. At that point, you WILL in fact be, the dumbest **** ever.
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Wallcrawler · 03-07-2013, 07:54 PM

The Chiefs have a history of taking a player at an established position, and for no intelligent reason, just dicking around with them.

Usually its where they draft Safeties and try to turn them into cornerbacks. (See exhibits Eric Warfield and William Bartee)

It worked out OK for Tamba, but he really wasnt a head turner on the d-line anyway.

Albert is upper echelon LT caliber. Theres absolutely no reason to move him to RT.

Cephalic Trauma · 03-07-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm with Direckshun and pr_capone on this. RTs love to make the switch to the higher paid position. LTs hate to make the switch to the lower paid position. It takes some work to switch, but any of the most physically talented guys (i.e. the LTs) should be able to do it, particularly if they have an offseason to work at it.

Bouncing back and forth on a game to game basis is probably not the best idea though.

Can you blame LTs, especially good ones?

Cephalic Trauma · 03-07-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

BTW, how many NFL wide receivers are strictly right side or left side receivers? Zero?

Pretty sure it's zero, but maybe some have a good side?

03-07-2013, 05:43 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2450208	Football experts: Making the switch from left to right tackle People are throwing this idea around a lot. Donald Stephenson and Jeff Allen get a shot at starting RT. Branden Albert should move from left to right. Jake Long should sign as a RT. Meanwhile, the Packers are openly entertaining the idea of moving Bryan Bulaga to from RT to LT, figuring that their best lineman on the roster needs to play the most important position. My only experience with watching these side switches occurred in 2002 where John Tait moved over to RT to make room for Willie Roaf. Oh, and also when Damien McIntosh moved from LT to RT to make way for Branden Albert, but nobody really gives a shit about that. However, I do remember the John Tait thing being considered a big deal. Tait did offseason interviews at OTAs and at training camp where he explained the sheer amount of work that is involved in making the switch. It's a muscle memory thing. You're taking everything you learned how to do with your right and left hands and feet and flip-flopping it all. Not only do your responsibilities in terms of the playbook change, but the entire TECHNIQUE is different, and requires careful, repetitive drills to be hammered out so the switch goes smoothly. So my question is am I accurate with that description of making the switch? Or am I (and Tait) blowing shit out of proportion? Because to me, it seems like Albert is pretty resistant to making that change not only for the money and for his personal pride as a premier LT in the league, but also because he probably doesn't feel like re-learning how to play the tackle position in one offseason, where he would then potentially have to leave the team if the Chiefs want to go in a different direction. Why put in the work if the results aren't worth it, after all?
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Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4292912	The Chiefs have a history of taking a player at an established position, and for no intelligent reason, just dicking around with them. Usually its where they draft Safeties and try to turn them into cornerbacks. (See exhibits Eric Warfield and William Bartee) It worked out OK for Tamba, but he really wasnt a head turner on the d-line anyway. Albert is upper echelon LT caliber. Theres absolutely no reason to move him to RT. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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