Dirty Politics - 24 year old Drunk Driving "Breaking News" on Bush

[Chiefnj]

I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell.

On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already.

Thoughts on this:

1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week.

3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me.

4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago.

5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway!

I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.

This cracks me up!

This is a very "Big Deal", right Gaz. I mean, this is a VERY BIG DEAL! Mark, Pitt, this guy just CAN'T be president now! I mean, even though he "failed to kill anyone" (how am I doing Gaz), he must be a bad, bad man.

Wait, he isn't a Bronco, well nevermind then, it is not that "Big a deal".

xoxo~
BroncoFan
Smiling at the thought of both Griese, and the President in jail together.

[Desert Chief]

I don't defend Clinton. I just point out the common ground to the hypocrits. Big difference.

I guess this means many of you will be changing your vote now. Perhaps Buchanan or somebody like that?

[morphius]

Titus,

30% of my income going towards various taxes is far too much, IMO. If that amount is fine with you, so be it.

[Desert Chief]

Oh my gosh!!! Two Cheney DUIS!!!! Hopefully they both aren't into the Long Island Ice Teas when the missles fly...

You expect your president to affect your state or local taxation or you payroll deductions? Hmm...sorry, dont think that's going to happen even with a good lib in there.

I guess since you confuse the difference a discussion about taxes is lost on you.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> If the same, EXACT story was reported about Gore, you "Cons" would be all over it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't know if I count as one of the "Cons," but yes I would be all over it if a story of this nature came out about Gore. ALL OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Bush has run a clean campaign. Despite the numerous acts of questionable legality and dubvious ethics embodied in the veep, Bush has limited his criticism to pointing out that Al Gore has been lying about his and Bush's social security plan. This despite pundits screaming for him to 'go for the jugular' and 'land the knockout punch' on Gore's obvious liabilities. I would be very disappointed if a 'leak' like this were connected to Bush's campaign [as apparently this one is going to be connected to the Gore campaign, although tangentially. . . Natch].

The local Fox news reporter who broke this, states that a delegate to the 200 Democrat convention mentioned this to her, then called her later to provide the reference number for the paper file. Materials were, at the same time faxes to numerous news outlets, though I don't think the source of that fax has been identified as yet.

Also, it seemed like someone was alluding to this [the DUI] possibly being a felony. the Kennebunkport police report this was a Class D Misdemeanor.


[This message has been edited by JC-Johnny (edited 11-03-2000).]

[morphius]

Gore and Bush have both promised tax cuts. They will either make good on their promises, or they're liars, IMO. Especailly Bush, considering that Congress won't be standing in his way at every turn.

[bishop_74]

They just named the guy on the CBS radio news. He is a democratic activist.

[morphius]

The media will find any tidbit of information they can, and blow it WAAAAY out of proportion in an attempt to gain readers/viewers. I doubt that Gore had anything to do with the breaking of this story at all.

Tax cuts are one thing. You keep confusing tax cuts with payroll deductions. I dont believe either of the two candidates called for payroll deduction decreases which would directly affect your 'paycheck'. You can decrease your payroll deductions w/o any legislation currently.

Oh and btw, only 30% is deducted from your check? Lucky you. Mine's like 45%.

[Clint in Wichita]

From what I hear, it came from a reporter in Maine who checked on it after hearing a courthouse rumor about it. I find it doubtful that Al Gore rolled out of bed one day and said, "Hmm, let's hit him with the DUI today." This is Bush's past, people are going to find things about him, and he'll get attacked. If he gets into office, it will continue as it would for Gore. The people on top are under a bigger microscope in this day and age of the media than they've ever been. I give Cheney credit for at least admitting to his when asked if he had been in trouble in the past before someone had to go drag it out of his past...

[Shootr]

Titus:

But wouldn't the withholding go down the same percentage as the actual taxes? I would think that due to the change in tax rates, the amount required to be taken out on a payroll cycle would also be less. Isn't this the case?



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bk

Here's an article on the 'issue' which happened in 1976.

[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20001103/aponline095357_000.htm"]Washinton Post[/url]

Bkkcoh: True, but that's assuming a tax rate cut. Which is obviously more possible with Bush than Gore depending upon the makeup of the Congress/Senate.

Most of the 'cuts' I have heard about are 'targeted' credits and above the line items. (deductions that reduce your AGI)--examples would be the increase in the amount you can deduct for IRA contributions. Currently the max is 2000, Bush would try to up it to 4000.

[redshirt32]

From the Washington Post:

Tom Connolly, a Portland lawyer and Democratic activist who attended the Democratic National Convention, confirmed Friday to The Associated Press that he was the source of the report.

Connolly said someone who was in Biddeford District Court when Bush's 1976 case came up was alarmed that it had never been reported and alerted "a public figure" about the case. That person passed the word to Connolly, he said, though he would not name the public figure.

Connolly, who ran unsuccessfully for governor two years ago, said he had been talking about the case at the courthouse Thursday. He said he had confirmed Bush's arrest by obtaining a copy of the court docket – which he gave to a local television reporter.

"It's not a dirty trick to tell the truth," Connolly said, maintaining that Bush should have made the case known a long time ago.

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No it's not. He's been on-the-wagon for 14 years. That's relevant. He has not broken any laws as an elected official. That's relevant. He has not lied to the American people as an elected official. That's relevant.

Talk about desperation tactics by the Democratic party... It's sickening...