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duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Coach · 07-30-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

He also told a reporter that he doesn't know which teams are on his no-trade, and he'd have to check with his agent.

Something tells me he's either bullshitting, or he's more dumber than I thought....

**alnorth** · 07-30-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Something tells me he's either bullshitting, or he's more dumber than I thought....

Option 3 is that he doesn't have a team he adamantly refuses to go to, and they just pick 12 random teams they think might suck every year. If one of those teams are doing better than expected, they can waive it.

ChiefsCountry · 07-30-2013, 08:53 PM

A's got Callaspo from the Angels.

KChiefs1 · 07-30-2013, 08:55 PM

Angels dumping talent tonight....Kendrick to KC?

-King- · 07-30-2013, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Something tells me he's either bullshitting, or he's more dumber than I thought....

Eh. I think that's just standard. The agent just picks the worst 12 teams or teams that have no shot at a pennant and makes that the no trade list. I don't think they sit down and literally cross out teams one by one.

KevB · 07-30-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Eh. I think that's just standard. The agent just picks the worst 12 teams or teams that have no shot at a pennant and makes that the no trade list. I don't think they sit down and literally cross out teams one by one.

Some do. Cliff Lee apparently has a list of big market teams on his list. Every player is different.

**alnorth** · 07-30-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Some do. Cliff Lee apparently has a list of big market teams on his list. Every player is different.

For someone like Cliff Lee, it is a negotiating tactic. He's 37 years old. If he has a bad season its moot, but if he's having a good year and his team is out of it, the bad teams wont trade for him anyway, and if a large market comes calling, he can negotiate for a longer-term deal that takes him to 40. (not this season, but say in 2015 or 2016 when his current deal is almost over)

SPchief · 07-30-2013, 11:11 PM

Complete hypothetical right now. But as of right now, if the Royals had to play the wild card game. Who would you rather have on the mound, Shields on 4 days rest, or Santana on 3 days rest? Don't know why this popped in my head, just did.

SPATCH · 07-30-2013, 11:20 PM

goddamn it. the rangers came back to beat the angels again.

**alnorth** · 07-30-2013, 11:28 PM

Tigers traded for Jose Iglesias. They obviously expect their shortstop to be suspended by Selig for 50 games.

Mama Hip Rockets · 07-31-2013, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief

Complete hypothetical right now. But as of right now, if the Royals had to play the wild card game. Who would you rather have on the mound, Shields on 4 days rest, or Santana on 3 days rest? Don't know why this popped in my head, just did.

Shields.

AussieChiefsFan · 07-31-2013, 12:10 AM

Them feels when over .500.

silver5liter · 07-31-2013, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Angels dumping talent tonight....Kendrick to KC?

@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Royals on H. Kendrick’s no-trade list. Kendrick can block trades to 12 teams this season

nope

AussieChiefsFan · 07-31-2013, 01:10 AM

We haven't got a very difficult remaining schedule, only problem is that its the same story for Cleveland.

Archie F. Swin · 07-31-2013, 04:51 AM

This Royals/Indians winning spasm is diving me absolutely BONKERS. The Royals can't win for winning!

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