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salame · 10-07-2013, 03:32 AM

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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 10-08-2013, 04:44 PM

Unfortunately, since I got caught in the government furlough, I had to cancel my trip to NY Comic Con. I was going to be helping a friend out at his table where he's selling his graphic novels as well as his latest novel that just came out. NYCC and SDCC are two intense shows, but as an exhibitor I don't get to see much of them. Mostly I'm working the booth from 9-7 Thursday through Sunday.

I do most of my shopping at conventions these days. Since I have written some short stories based on comic characters, I tend to pick up key issues about specific characters. It helps me get the characterization down pat and it's also a tax write off (research material). I buy more independent comics these days than I do DC or Marvel, but I have picked up some of the big omnibuses in B&N or B-A-M (they're B&W versions using the original pencils), but they're a lot cheaper since they don't have to pay for color.

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If one were to want to get into collecting what would you recommend to start with? Also what trade rags or web sites do you use to value the comics? I haven't touched a comic book in probably 20 years but would like to get back into collecting.

**AustinChief** · 10-08-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How about Wolverine vs Spiderman?

I've had this argument with a friends a million times. They all say Wolverine but Spider-Man is stronger, faster and has the range attack with the webs. I think he'd give Wolvey that work.

Spidey couldn't kill Wolverine (who can?) but he could knock him out.

Given that Spiderman beat the entire X-Men team including Wolverine... I'd say your friends are wrong.

Aries Walker · 10-08-2013, 05:03 PM

The new Hawkeye series is outstanding. Same with Fearless Defenders and Superior Foes of Spider-Man. If you want back series, try Captain America: Red, White and Black from a few years ago.

And yes, Marvel is the superior brand. Most of DC's appeal is Batman, and he can only go so far.

Aries Walker · 10-08-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Given that Spiderman beat the entire X-Men team including Wolverine... I'd say your friends are wrong.

This is correct. People root for Wolverine because he's popular, but power level wise, he's no match for Spider-Man on any level.

**Rausch** · 10-08-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

This is correct. People root for Wolverine because he's popular, but power level wise, he's no match for Spider-Man on any level.

Spiderman can't kill wolverine.
Spiderman can't break a bone on wolverine.
Spiderman can't heal.

Not really a fair fight...

Aries Walker · 10-08-2013, 05:46 PM

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

**AustinChief** · 10-08-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Spiderman can't kill wolverine.
Spiderman can't break a bone on wolverine.
Spiderman can't heal.

Not really a fair fight...

Spiderman is faster, stronger(10X to be exact) and FAR FAR smarter.

Spiderman could easily knock him out and stuff him in a furnace.

According to everything Marvel has published. Spiderman (if willing) could kill Wolverine in a New York minute.

**AustinChief** · 10-08-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

As I stated. Spiderman is 10X stronger according to Marvel. 20 tons vs 2 tons.

He beat the crap out of a herald of Galactus for Chrissake.

Valiant · 10-08-2013, 07:48 PM

They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also..

You can debate either way from what writers have put into books..

the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.

Sure-Oz · 10-08-2013, 08:17 PM

The Dark Knight Returns is one of my favorite comics ever. They just came out with the TDKR animated deluxe edition bluray today. Check it out.

Valiant · 10-08-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

The Dark Knight Returns is one of my favorite comics ever. They just came out with the TDKR animated deluxe edition bluray today. Check it out.

in my que..

I want them to make a animated movie of the red sun..

Fishpicker · 10-08-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm looking forward more to Comic Book Men than Walking Dead. Kevin Smith has some funny friends. Tell 'em Steve Dave! is one of the funniest podcasts I've heard.

salame · 10-08-2013, 08:55 PM

Anyone going to the freestate con?

Sure-Oz · 10-08-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

in my que..

I want them to make a animated movie of the red sun..

Is that the Soviet Union Supes one?

Jamie · 10-08-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

The new Hawkeye series is outstanding.

Agreed. My favorite series right now are Hawkeye, Saga, and Wonder Woman.

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10-08-2013, 05:03 PM	#33
Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	The new Hawkeye series is outstanding. Same with Fearless Defenders and Superior Foes of Spider-Man. If you want back series, try Captain America: Red, White and Black from a few years ago. And yes, Marvel is the superior brand. Most of DC's appeal is Batman, and he can only go so far.
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10-08-2013, 05:46 PM	#36
Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.
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10-08-2013, 07:48 PM	#39
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6492380	They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also.. You can debate either way from what writers have put into books.. the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.
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10-08-2013, 08:55 PM	#43
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