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Old 08-12-2006, 11:14 PM   Topic Starter
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My theory on why we are bad against the bootlege: hint it is the DTs

That is right because we get no push up the middle from the DTs the DEs have to crash. Proper technique is to rush straight for about 2 yards then crash. If we do that the QB will get all the time in the world and the bootleg won't even be an issue because we will have no pressure at all.


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Old 08-12-2006, 11:19 PM   #2
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Granted we have been bad against the bootleg, but lets give Denver, Kubiak and Shanahan some credit here too. Ive seen them make many a team look stupid trying to defend it. Its not just us that has problems with it. How do you think they have been so successful for so many years??
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:26 PM   #3
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Granted we have been bad against the bootleg, but lets give Denver, Kubiak and Shanahan some credit here too.
Let's not, and trip their children as they walk to the bus...
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:20 PM   #4
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:23 PM   #5
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WTF, this is just a thread about an obvious flaw in our defense. You have some real football insight to add. Then add it. If not why don't you just avoid the thread or at least quit acting like such a pussy.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:51 AM   #6
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We're bad against the bootleg due to a lack of discipline and ability to recognize the play...
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:32 PM   #9
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We're bad against the bootleg due to a lack of discipline and ability to recognize the play...
If it mattered who we had playing DE then I would agree. But you watch those bootlegs and the DEs crash immediately. I personally believe they are being coached to crash immediately to make up for our DT shortfall in push.


In other words even I don't believe Gunther is that bad as a DC.
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:47 PM   #10
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In other words even I don't believe Gunther is that bad as a DC.
Well that makes one of us.

The guy should have never been rehired. We'll get to enjoy watching Denver shred us apart with this again in week 2...
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:53 PM   #11
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Well that makes one of us.

The guy should have never been rehired. We'll get to enjoy watching Denver shred us apart with this again in week 2...
ON both points we agree. Worse yet Herm kept him.

As far as I can see it was Herm's only bad coaching decision but I wonder if it was somewhat pushed on him by Carl.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:53 PM   #12
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ON both points we agree. Worse yet Herm kept him.

As far as I can see it was Herm's only bad coaching decision but I wonder if it was somewhat pushed on him by Carl.

I highly doubt that is the issue. Gun was wanted by Edwards to coach his defense in New York Jets. The Falcons were also in the mix the year we re-hired him as DC. Why wouldnt Herm want him now when he wanted him just a couple seasons ago?
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Well that makes one of us.

The guy should have never been rehired. We'll get to enjoy watching Denver shred us apart with this again in week 2...

And they will.

Of course, game 2 we'll shut them down and trounce their azzes.

Why that seems to happen every year is beyond me...
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:46 PM   #14
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We're bad against the bootleg due to a lack of discipline and ability to recognize the play...
It's the same strategy that my rottweiler falls for. I have her toy ball in my right hand, and act like I throw it across the room with my left. But, it's a squeaky ball, and when I squeeze it, she instantly looks back at me, so maybe if they put those squeaky things in the footballs, maybe Hicks wouldn't fall for the bootleg every time. Hey, if my rott can make adjustments during the play...
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I think Herm just wanted to maintain continuity within the defense. The players DO like Gunther. That's more than can be said for the last defensive coordinator.
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