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Old 09-21-2011, 07:26 AM  
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Michael Holley on Fescoe, now
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:53 AM   #31
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He's totally ripping on the false idea that Pioli is an egomaniac...invited Fescoe to call anyone in the Boston media and they would confirm Whitlock's idea of him are not consistent with who they know.

This sure is blowing up a lot of people's preferred narratives...
Pioli has never seemed like it in interviews. Seems pretty down to earth.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:53 AM   #32
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:54 AM   #33
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Says Pioli demanded Charles get more carries in the 1st Oakland game last year, Haley told him to shove it. First obvious friction between the two...
huh?
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:54 AM   #34
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Never said anything bad about Cassel.

Specifically said at halftime of Ravens game Haley blamed partial lack of success in scoring on the Ravens D, playcalling and Bowe.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:55 AM   #35
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:03 AM   #36
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He's surprised there is talk of a strained relationship between Haley and Pioli. Where is it coming from? No proof of it. Pioli isn't Jerry Jones. Doesn't want to be in the huddle.

Pioli just doesn't want to be out front in the media. Pioli wants Haley to be out front. His comfort layer is behind the scenes assembling the roster.
Sports media, led by Whitlock, are sometimes a bunch of sniveling, whiney crybabies. They don't like the "secrecy" and lack of access...so they invent shit out of thin air. Do Pioli and Haley have issues? On occasion, yeah they probably do. It doesn't appear to be anything on the level suggested by so many media clowns. Journalists have too much estrogen flowing through their veins, and will mistake normal macho disagreement and posturing for overblown drama that conceals some underlying non-existent "issue."

Exhibit A: Whitlock.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:10 AM   #37
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Holley basically shot down all the theories about discord between Haley and Pioli and Pioli forcing things on Haley. Pioli isn't like that, has never been like that and wouldn't be comfortable with it.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:18 AM   #38
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In other words, Chiefs Planet is full of shit concerning all of their theories on what they know is going on behind the scenes?

Say it ain't so. .

I think the general consensus is if we were winning which is the GM and HC's job to make happen, nobody would care. Aside from the crap on the field, (not down playing the significance) it doesn't sound like there is any discontent.

Haley will be around a while and I for 1 am glad. Pioli, maybe not so much.

The arrogance BS has always cracked me up because other than Whitlock there has been no other source to confirm any of Whitlocks accusations.
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Holley basically shot down all the theories about discord between Haley and Pioli and Pioli forcing things on Haley. Pioli isn't like that, has never been like that and wouldn't be comfortable with it.
Not surprising at all. Whitlock has moved from shit-stirrer, to attention-starved drama queen who invents shit in an attempt to stay relevant.

Doing that on a discussion board is one thing; making a living at it...even if it's profitable, should be humiliating and embarrassing.
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Holley basically shot down all the theories about discord between Haley and Pioli and Pioli forcing things on Haley. Pioli isn't like that, has never been like that and wouldn't be comfortable with it.
The one thing that Kietzman brought up yesterday, which I thought was a valid point, was that the Chiefs are very secretive about everything with the local media, yet they let this guy write a book about the inner workings of their organization. Why?

I mean, I don't really care that much, other than I'd prefer the Chiefs be a little more transparent with what's going on. Simply because I'm a fan and I want to know. It seems like the local media never gets anything out of the organization other than company speak, which makes for pretty boring stuff.
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The one thing that Kietzman brought up yesterday, which I thought was a valid point, was that the Chiefs are very secretive about everything with the local media, yet they let this guy write a book about the inner workings of their organization. Why?

I mean, I don't really care that much, other than I'd prefer the Chiefs be a little more transparent with what's going on. Simply because I'm a fan and I want to know. It seems like the local media never gets anything out of the organization other than company speak, which makes for pretty boring stuff.
They talked about that. This guy has had a relationship with the Pats for years. He's known Scott, Bill and Demitroff for years. He may have known them a bit in Cleveland.

I believe he said it was Belichicks idea to be really closed off with the media and Scott followed along because he's a shy guy and doesn't want to be in the spotlight. He was comfortable with Bill's approach because it suited his personality. He carried it over when he came to KC, just not as much. NE much stricter than KC with access - can't interview assistant coaches/coordinators, etc.

When teams are winning the access isn't an issue anyone cares about. The fan doesn't care a reporter has a tough job when the team is 5-0. When the team is 0-5 then everyone will pick on anything.
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The one thing that Kietzman brought up yesterday, which I thought was a valid point, was that the Chiefs are very secretive about everything with the local media, yet they let this guy write a book about the inner workings of their organization. Why?

I mean, I don't really care that much, other than I'd prefer the Chiefs be a little more transparent with what's going on. Simply because I'm a fan and I want to know. It seems like the local media never gets anything out of the organization other than company speak, which makes for pretty boring stuff.
Inner workings of the organization does not give away any tactical personnel advantages.
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Inner workings of the organization does not give away any tactical personnel advantages.
True but I like the secretive response towards injuries.
No reason to give an opponent a target.
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I mean, I don't really care that much, other than I'd prefer the Chiefs be a little more transparent with what's going on. Simply because I'm a fan and I want to know. It seems like the local media never gets anything out of the organization other than company speak, which makes for pretty boring stuff.
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