Football Manning wins...NFL again tweaks umpire position - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 09-08-2010, 12:19 PM

What Peyton wants, Peyton gets...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

The NFL heard Peyton Manning's complaints and responded with additional tweaks to the new umpire rule.

All 32 teams were told in a memo from the league Tuesday that the umpire will now position himself 12 yards from the line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped instead of approximately 15 yards, which was used during the preseason.

Also, the head linesman or line judge can signal when the ball can be snapped instead of having quarterbacks checking with referees. And the umpire must only be beyond the deepest running back - not established in position - before the ball can be snapped.

The changes should make it easier for teams to use the no-huddle offense throughout the game, and satisfy Manning, who expressed his frustration with the rules change following an Aug. 26 loss at Green Bay.

"The one (illegal snap) on me I thought was ridiculous, down there by the goal line when you're snapping the ball to keep them from potentially getting a replay," Manning said then. "Also, they (umpires) are unsettled. To throw a 5-yard penalty is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. So I think that's one thing that will be re-evaluated - at least a do-over of some sort, or a warning. But a 5-yard penalty? That's ridiculous."

Apparently the league agreed.

Officials will now have the discretion to issue a warning before enforcing the 5-yard penalty for an illegal snap. Clear violations, the memo said, will continue to be penalized without a warning.

Umpires also will move to the middle of the defense, their old position, during the final two minutes of the first half, the final five minutes of the game and when the offense is at, or inside, the opponent's 5-yard line. That's a change from just last week when the NFL decided to place umpires in their previous spot for the final five minutes of each half.

In March, the league cited safety concerns as the reason for moving umpires behind the deepest running back. It cited statistics that showed a significant increase in the number of collisions and injuries incurred by umpires.

"It reached the point where the league office thought that the physical danger out there and the safety of the umpire was becoming an issue, so we changed his position," Colts president Bill Polian said Aug. 28. "We recognized that there would be, A, mechanical issues, and B, issues with respect to certain penalties that might or might not be called based upon the new position."

But after Manning insisted changes were needed, Polian told reporters they were solvable.

Now the four-time league MVP and Polian are willing to see if this works.

"We'll see," Manning said last week during the annual bowling tournament he hosts to raise money for the Peyback Foundation.

The league said referees and umpires will meet Friday in Dallas to review the preseason and the mechanics of the changes to the umpire rule. The officials being used in Thursday night's season opener will review the material during a conference call this week.

Manning was not available Tuesday, the Colts' regular off-day, but is expected to comment on the changes Wednesday. Polian did not immediately respond to an interview request left with the team's public relations staff Tuesday.

**007** · 09-08-2010, 02:09 PM

Peyton was right to bitch about it though. That was a screwed up setup they had.

eazyb81 · 09-08-2010, 02:11 PM

Good change, the rule was lame anyways.

Manning haters are hilarious. The guy will end up as the best QB of all-time.

It's like hating Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth.

FAX · 09-08-2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Good change, the rule was lame anyways.

Manning haters are hilarious. The guy will end up as the best QB of all-time.

It's like hating Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth.

No ... it's like hating the kid banjo player from Deliverance.

Just because an inbred, asshole-licking, whining, cheating dipstick has a particular skill, doesn't mean he's immune to objective analysis.

FAX

Deberg_1990 · 09-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Manning haters are hilarious. The guy will end up as the best QB of all-time.

IM not really a hater of his. I think hes great. But he wont be best of all time..not when he has flubs in big games like the SB last year.

keg in kc · 09-08-2010, 02:23 PM

It's a rule that was going to screw with the flow of the game for everybody, not just manning, so I'm glad they're adjusting on the fly.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-08-2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

No ... it's like hating the kid banjo player from Deliverance.

Just because an inbred, asshole-licking, whining, cheating dipstick has a particular skill, doesn't mean he's immune to objective analysis.

FAX

FAX The Correct.

eazyb81 · 09-08-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

No ... it's like hating the kid banjo player from Deliverance.

Just because an inbred, asshole-licking, whining, cheating dipstick has a particular skill, doesn't mean he's immune to objective analysis.

FAX

Haters gonna hate I guess.

Manning is the best football player of my generation. I love watching the guy dissect defenses like a brain surgeon.

FAX · 09-08-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Haters gonna hate I guess.

Manning is the best football player of my generation. I love watching the guy dissect defenses like a brain surgeon.

I'm not generally a hater, Mr. eazyb81 ... at least, not one with a capital "H".

However, Manning has been cheating since he came into the league while the NFL and their officials have ignored his chiseling-ass ways simply because he's a media darling whose endorsements help sell game advertising.

For example, according to the NFL's own rulebook (the one they use for all the other teams), the offense must be set prior to the snap of the ball for a minimum of 1 second. This includes (or is supposed to include) the quarterback. A violation of this rule is supposed to result in a false start penalty.

Manning, however, can jog in frigging circles non-stop without getting called. Not only that, but he can extend his arms into the neutral zone, walk back and forth, do a little dance, drop trou, and jiggle his nuts at the cheerleaders ... all immediately prior to the snap and without getting called for an infraction.

To me, this is favorable treatment. However, if you wish to admire and idolize a cheating, connatural, sandbagging, asswipe of a doofus, please feel free to do so.

FAX

Mr. Laz · 09-08-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hays

I agree with Manning, I was watching that game and it took the offense out of rhythm as they could not do a no huddle offense. Pretty stupid that the ref had to be set before you can hike the ball.

i think the pitchers in baseball should be able to throw the ball as soon as the hitters foot touches the batter's box too.

it's lame that the pitcher has to wait until the batter is ready

kickoffs shouldn't need to wait for the whistle just kick that shit and go

mikey23545 · 09-08-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

I'm not generally a hater, Mr. eazyb81 ... at least, not one with a capital "H".

However, Manning has been cheating since he came into the league while the NFL and their officials have ignored his chiseling-ass ways simply because he's a media darling whose endorsements help sell game advertising.

For example, according to the NFL's own rulebook (the one they use for all the other teams), the offense must be set prior to the snap of the ball for a minimum of 1 second. This includes (or is supposed to include) the quarterback. A violation of this rule is supposed to result in a false start penalty.

Manning, however, can jog in frigging circles non-stop without getting called. Not only that, but he can extend his arms into the neutral zone, walk back and forth, do a little dance, drop trou, and jiggle his nuts at the cheerleaders ... all immediately prior to the snap and without getting called for an infraction.

To me, this is favorable treatment. However, if you wish to admire and idolize a cheating, connatural, sandbagging, asswipe of a doofus, please feel free to do so.

FAX

...rep

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2010, 03:52 PM

The rule was stupid to begin with, and should have been changed regardless of who bitched about it.

I gotta say, this place doesn't disappoint. Mention Peyton Manning, and all the sandy vags come out of the woodwork.

FAX · 09-08-2010, 03:58 PM

Manning lovers.

... tells you a lot about people and their sense of honor and fair play and rightness.

FAX

vailpass · 09-08-2010, 03:59 PM

If Peyton was QB on my team I'd think him TCB was pretty cool.

eazyb81 · 09-08-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

Manning lovers.

... tells you a lot about people and their sense of honor and fair play and rightness.

FAX

Manning haters.

... tells you a lot about how pathetically jealous people are in sports and life in general.

FAX · 09-08-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Manning haters.

... tells you a lot about how pathetically jealous people are in sports and life in general.

Okay, Mr. eazyb81 ... how about this? (He that hath ears, let him hear.)

How about the obvious interception your stinking, cheating, inbred, hero threw to Troy Polamalualululualu a few years ago that was ruled "incomplete"? You know, the one that everybody in the entire world knew was a total bullcrap call and proved once and for all that the NFL "officials" were trying to ensure a Colts win against the Steelers and a trip to the AFC Championship game?

Was Troy Polamalualululualu pathetically jealous about life in general?

FAX

09-08-2010, 12:19 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Manning wins...NFL again tweaks umpire position What Peyton wants, Peyton gets... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html The NFL heard Peyton Manning's complaints and responded with additional tweaks to the new umpire rule. All 32 teams were told in a memo from the league Tuesday that the umpire will now position himself 12 yards from the line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped instead of approximately 15 yards, which was used during the preseason. Also, the head linesman or line judge can signal when the ball can be snapped instead of having quarterbacks checking with referees. And the umpire must only be beyond the deepest running back - not established in position - before the ball can be snapped. The changes should make it easier for teams to use the no-huddle offense throughout the game, and satisfy Manning, who expressed his frustration with the rules change following an Aug. 26 loss at Green Bay. "The one (illegal snap) on me I thought was ridiculous, down there by the goal line when you're snapping the ball to keep them from potentially getting a replay," Manning said then. "Also, they (umpires) are unsettled. To throw a 5-yard penalty is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. So I think that's one thing that will be re-evaluated - at least a do-over of some sort, or a warning. But a 5-yard penalty? That's ridiculous." Apparently the league agreed. Officials will now have the discretion to issue a warning before enforcing the 5-yard penalty for an illegal snap. Clear violations, the memo said, will continue to be penalized without a warning. Umpires also will move to the middle of the defense, their old position, during the final two minutes of the first half, the final five minutes of the game and when the offense is at, or inside, the opponent's 5-yard line. That's a change from just last week when the NFL decided to place umpires in their previous spot for the final five minutes of each half. In March, the league cited safety concerns as the reason for moving umpires behind the deepest running back. It cited statistics that showed a significant increase in the number of collisions and injuries incurred by umpires. "It reached the point where the league office thought that the physical danger out there and the safety of the umpire was becoming an issue, so we changed his position," Colts president Bill Polian said Aug. 28. "We recognized that there would be, A, mechanical issues, and B, issues with respect to certain penalties that might or might not be called based upon the new position." But after Manning insisted changes were needed, Polian told reporters they were solvable. Now the four-time league MVP and Polian are willing to see if this works. "We'll see," Manning said last week during the annual bowling tournament he hosts to raise money for the Peyback Foundation. The league said referees and umpires will meet Friday in Dallas to review the preseason and the mechanics of the changes to the umpire rule. The officials being used in Thursday night's season opener will review the material during a conference call this week. Manning was not available Tuesday, the Colts' regular off-day, but is expected to comment on the changes Wednesday. Polian did not immediately respond to an interview request left with the team's public relations staff Tuesday.
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eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	Good change, the rule was lame anyways. Manning haters are hilarious. The guy will end up as the best QB of all-time. It's like hating Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	It's a rule that was going to screw with the flow of the game for everybody, not just manning, so I'm glad they're adjusting on the fly.
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4971115	The rule was stupid to begin with, and should have been changed regardless of who bitched about it. I gotta say, this place doesn't disappoint. Mention Peyton Manning, and all the sandy vags come out of the woodwork.
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