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Sac's 2015 Chiefs Mock Draft - Two Weeks To Go!!

Signings:
Jeremy Maclin, WR
Da'rick Rogers, WR
Jason Avant, WR
Terrell Pryor, QB
Tyvon Branch, S
Derek Sherrod, OT
Jerell Worthy, DT
Hepron Fangupo, DT
Ben Grubbs, OG
Paul Fanaika, OG
Richard Gordon, TE
Kelcie McCray, S

Losses:
Rodney Hudson, C
Dwayne Bowe, WR
Donnie Avery, WR
AJ Jenkins, WR
Vance Walker, DT
Joe Mays, LB
Anthony Fasano, TE

Maclin is better for this system than Bowe. Grubbs is a very good guard and is a substantial upgrade over McGlynn/Linkenbach. Pryor, Rogers and Sherrod are superb pickups on the cheap that offer huge ceilings at positions that can be upgraded.

The main holes/question marks/depth issues on the team remain ROG, C, ILB, WR, DB, ROT. The team is facing contract issues at OLB, CB,

1. (18) La'el Collins, OL; LSU: 6’4”, 305 lb.

40: 5.12
10: 1.81
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 27”
Broad: 108”
3 Cone: 7.70 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.63 seconds
Arm: 33.25"
Hand: 10.5"

Collins is the most pro-ready offensive lineman in this draft. He's capable of playing four positons on the line and giving a team solid performance from Day One. Good athleticism, with very good feet and kick step and slide. Plays extremely nasty and gets to the second level effectively. Plays with very good functional power. Was the best OL at the senior bowl and combine.

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In an expression of ultimate humility that is rare for a football player worthy of being a top-five pick, Fowler admitted he was completely overwhelmed by Collins in the '13 meeting.

"My sophomore year, we went to Baton Rouge and played against LSU, and I'm not going to lie, I got my butt whooped," Fowler told mmqb.si.com. "That was one of my worst games just because of how I got tossed around. So I spent the whole last summer getting ready for La'el, I ain't going to lie to you. I knew I was going to run into some pretty decent tackles, but the main motivation was from him getting after me my sophomore year."





2. (47) Eric Rowe, CB; Utah: 6’1” 205 lb.

40: 4.45 seconds
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical: 39”
Broad: 125”
3 Cone: 6.70 seconds
20 Shuttle: 3.97 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.48 seconds

Rowe might go as early as the mid-first round, but if he's on the board in the second, it's nearly a no-brainer for the Chiefs. He's a perfect fit for Sutton's defense and has every measurable and intangible that Dorsey looks for in a draft prospect. There is no cornerback in this draft that is more ready to step into Sutton's defense and produce than Rowe.

Former Freshman All-American and three time conference selection at safety moved over to cornerback for the 2014 season to fill in for the departed Keith McGill. Rowe is a very athletic and instinctive player who had an excellent combine. Strictly a press man coverage CB at the next level, but that would work out extremely well for the Chiefs as that’s what they use. Strong and aggressive, but a smart player. Excellent run defender and well coached in Utah’s pro style defense. Would fit into Sutton’s base defense on the edge as well as his hybrid dime packages extremely well.

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"Just watched tape on Utah S/CB Eric Rowe," tweeted NFL Network's Charles Davis prior to the combine. "If I’m Press/Man team I want him."

Rowe finished in the top five among safeties in the broad jump (10 feet, 5 inches; tied for third), bench press (19 reps; tied for fourth) and the 60-yard shuttle (11.48 seconds; fifth).

Rowe is seen as an NFL prospect at both the safety and cornerback positions — he played free safety his first three years at Utah before switching to cornerback his senior season.





3. (80) Tre McBride, WR; William & Mary: 6’0”, 210 lb.

40: 4.41
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 38”
Broad: 122”
3 Cone: 6.96 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.08 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.70 seconds
Arms: 32.25"
Hands: 9"

IMO, the second best receiver in this draft for this team. Legitimate NFL size, speed and athleticism. Good route running and has excellent hands. Very good catch radius with the ability to go up and over defenders to get the ball. His high point ability is near equal to Devante Parker. Very smart with a good understanding of the game. (Was recruited by Harvard.) Big time skills shown at the Shrine Game week. An excellent fit for Reid’s offense.

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William & Mary WR Tre McBride really impressed me over the summer based on his junior tape and then he followed it up with a strong senior season and is continuing that momentum here in Indianapolis. He ran an unofficial 4.41 in the 40-yard dash and looked outstanding catching the ball with smooth routes and above average body control. McBride gathers himself so effortlessly in his route breaks, showing off natural hands and overall receiver traits. A Pierre Garcon-like player, McBride has the tape that could land him in the top-100 and his combine performance won't hurt that prediction.





3. (98) Henry Anderson, DT; Stanford: 6’6”, 294 lb.

40: 5.03 seconds
10: 1.63 seconds
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical: 30”
Broad: 111”
3 Cone: 7.20 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.19 seconds
Arms: 33.5"
Hands: 9.75"

Anderson has served time at both the DE and DT positions in the Cardinals pro style 34 defense and would be an easy transition over to the multiple fronts that Sutton employs for the Chiefs. Big, tall and long, he's extremely explosive and quick for a player his size and actually translates that into on the field production as he racked up 65 tackles, 15 TFL and 8.5 sacks. Disruptive and makes a lot of impact plays. Honorable Mention All-American. Conference First Team All-Academic.

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"Despite his imposing build, Anderson is just as likely to be beat opponents with his quickness off the snap as he is power. Anderson varies his pass rush speeds and chops with hands to create space and slip into the backfield. He's more flexible than he looks and uses his long arms to lasso ball-carriers. Anderson shows good functional strength to lock-out and create a pile."






4. (118) John Miller, OL; Louisville: 6’2 1/2”, 303 lb.

40: Combine – 5.33; Pro Day – 5.08
10: 1.87
Bench: 29 reps
Vertical: 27”
3 Cone: 8.20
20 Shuttle: 4.75
Broad: 104”
Arms: 33.25"
Hands: 10.25"

Miller, IMO, is the best interior lineman in the 2014 Draft. Extremely powerful and nasty, when he locks onto a defender, it’s over. Was the best player on the field at the Shrine game - a man amongst boys. While the Chiefs have signed two guards in the free agent market in Ben Grubbs and Paul Fanaika, there is a huge question mark at the Center position as Rod Hudson has departed for richer pastures – and guess who Miller talks to and patterns his game after? Former Louisville Cardinal and current Bills center Eric Wood. Like Hudson, a former standout college OG, Miller is a prime canidate to move inside to the Center position at the next level. He’s got very good knee bend, comes out of his stance quickly and uses his hands like meat cleavers on defenders. He has excellent leverage and strength and comes up with a ton of power. Is good on quick pulls. I think he’d be absolutely balls at any of the three OL spots, but has all the traits of a very, very good center in this scheme.

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Miller is the first guard I’ve broken down but has quickly become one of my favorites of all the players I’ve watched. There aren’t many flaws to his game.

He does a fantastic job of maintaining his base. Lower and upper half are in synch. He doesn’t lunge, always keeping his legs under him. Creates the knee bend you’re looking for and a powerful base to generate power from.

In pass protection, it allows him to anchor and absorb bull rushes as well as you could hope for. Couple that with his arm extension, and Miller should be textbook tape of how to “catch” defenders.





5. (172) Zach Vigil, LB; Utah State: 6’2”, 236 lb.

40: 4.66
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical: 32"
Broad: 118"
3 Cone: 7.11
20 Shuttle: 4.41

Vigil, who was not invited to the Combine after posting numbers that usually get you a Bukus award winning type of season with 154 tackles, 9 sacks, etc., had a very good pro day where he showed good speed, strength and moved very well in the drills. This pro day was attended by 20 NFL teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs, to basically watch Vigil. He’s a complete linebacker who plays with speed and instinct and excellent fundamentals. I think he’s one of the best ILBs in the Draft and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go a round or even two before this after showing the 4.6 speed.

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At linebacker you can have all the measurable in the world, but at the end of the day it means nothing if you don’t produce and Zach Vigil produced more last season than any other inside linebacker in the draft. His performance was consistent week in and week out with two negatively-graded games in 15 weeks.

When you think of a small school linebacker with big production getting little draft buzz it’s easy to assume that he’s a poor athlete, but that’s not the case with Vigil. His pro day numbers put him right around the inside linebacker average for almost all the events compared to historical combine figures. When you watch his tape, though, his coordination and instincts both jump out as above average.

The middle linebacker graded well above average rushing the passer, in coverage, and against the run. Vigil’s 76 total stops were the second most in the draft class and his 36 total pressures were the second most as well. He was also a very reliable tackler missing just 12 all year compared to 131 combined solos and assists.



5. (173) Ben Koyack, TE; Notre Dame: 6’5”, 255 lb.

40: 4.72
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 30"
Broad: 116"
3 Cone: 7.32
20 Shuttle: 4.52
60 Shuttle: 12.20
Arms: 32.5"
Hands: 10.75"

Originally had Ohio State's Jeff Heurerman here, but he's moved up on everyone's boards to the point that the fifth round doesn't seem to be a reality in a perceived weak TE draft for a guy with his athleticism and Urban Meyer's backing. As such, Notre Dame's Ben Koyack gets the nod. Big, physical player who is an excellent blocker with good, huge hands. Underutilized (seems to be a theme this year with the tight end position across the board), but is a talented player. Would work well opposite Kelce and be effective in red zone Jumbo sets that Reid throws out there from time to time. Pretty solid fifth rounder IMO.

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Possesses desired size and athleticism for the position. Can threaten the seam, though not asked to do so very often. Sinks hips and plays with twitch into and out of breaks. Large, strong hands. Hands-catcher with plus concentration in a crowd. Equally comfortable in–line or from the slot. Excels as run blocker with unique understanding of leverage and hand placement. Works to secure edge. Mirrors and stays engaged when walling off and hustles to get his man turned when responsible for play-side block. Has potential to be left on an island in pass protection. Competes hard.
Sounds exactly what this team needs at the position.




6. (193) Kyle Emanuel, OLB; North Dakota State: 6’3”, 255 lb.

40: 4.77 seconds
Bench: 27 reps
Vertical: 34”
Broad: 120”
3 Cone: 7.10 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.25 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.78 seconds

The reigning Buck Buchanan Award winner, Emanuel absolutely destroyed the FCS division with 70 tackles, 16.5 sacks, 27 tackles for loss, 3 forced fumbles and an interception. He’s not just a try hard, special teams guy – Emanuel has a number of effective pass rush moves, plays with power and speed and is well versed in fundamentals and possesses good instincts. A huge part of four FCS College Football Championships.

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Among the many defensive linemen to stand out this week, Kyle Emanuel put an impressive array of pass-rushing moves on display as he worked his way past offensive tackles throughout the week.
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College Football Performance Awards (CFPA) today announced several 2014 honors for four-time FCS national champion North Dakota State. Defensive lineman Kyle Emanuel was named the 2014 CFPA National Defensive Performer of the Year. The team, in addition, was honored for the top FCS performance in 2014.

Emanuel finished the 2014 season with 97 tackles in sixteen games. He had 32.5 tackles for loss, 19.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and one interception.

Emanuel, who was previously honored as first-team All-American, first-team All-MVFC, and the Sports Network's Buck Buchanan Award winner, helped North Dakota State finish third in the FCS in scoring defense (14.1 points allowed per game) and sixth in passing yards allowed (155.0 passing yards per game).



6. (217) Antwan Goodley, WR; Baylor: 5’10”, 209 lb.

40: 4.44
Vertical: 35"
Broad: 127"
3 Cone: 7.19
20 Shuttle: 4.38

Thick, wide muscled frame that makes him look more like a running back than a wide receiver. Will absolutely explode downfield once the ball is in his hands. Has had a extremely productive career for the Bears and was QB Petty’s preferred target. Immensely strong, will just plow through defensive backs. Offers a lot of versatility for the position, capable of coming out of the backfield as well as being on the outside where he uses his athleticism to climb up for the ball.

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Goodley is explosive on and off the field. He has been clocked as fast as 4.39 seconds in the 40 and squats an amazing 660 pounds, second-most on the team. He also caught 71 passes for 1,339 yards (18.9 yards per reception) and 13 TDs last season, when he had five catches of at least 60 yards (most in the nation), eight of at least 40 yards (tied for sixth) and 14 of at least 30 yards (tied for third-most).



7. (233) Terrance Plummer, LB; Central Florida: 5'11 1/2", 240 lb.

40: 4.90
10: 1.64
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical: 33.5"
Broad: 112"
3 Cone: 7.16
20 Shuttle: 4.41

Plummer, over the course of his four years at UCF, has played inside and outside and has excelled. A tackling machine, he's averaged 105 tackles in each of his three starting seasons, including 99 tackles, 13 tfl and 4 sacks in 2014. Drops into coverage extremely well and has a knack for making the big play at the right time. Instinctive and fundamentally sound. Extremely hard worker and team leader. A very good football player. He's being seriously undervalued by the draftniks heading into the 2015 Draft. Reminds me a lot of London Fletcher.

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Plummer was highly-productive as a linebacker for the Knights, producing 334 total tackles (30.5 for loss), 6.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and four interceptions in his four seasons at UCF. He was also voted as a member of the All-American Athletic Conference's first team twice and was named the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Defensive MVP in 2013.
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Terrance Plummer, who is an overachieving middle linebacker, very productive, always around the ball, never on the ground. Interesting guy as a late round pick. I think Plummer all over the field in a number of games this year. The Missouri game was a game you look back at he looked like he could be a third or fourth round pick. But I think in the late rounds, Plummer would make a lot of sense.


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Old 11-12-2014, 09:21 AM   #31
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I don't get the first pick. I fully expect us to resign Bailey. I've noticed we mainly have two DL on the field with Tamba/Houston at the line as well.
We'll have Poe, Bailey, Cat will be back, Walker and Howard (who has looked pretty good for 3rd string on the depth chart).

Going by Dorsey's history, I think he'll draft to replace a high contract. He needs to to get the cap ready for Houston and Poe (and maybe Berry).

Trae Waynes would be a great pick. Another prospect like Phillip Gaines, and we need help there with Cooper struggling and Owens being a dumpster fire.

That or receiver. I think they can get a good WR like Diggs in rd 2 though.

Like your TE pick. I'd be pumped if our draft had those 3 in it.
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I don't get the first pick. I fully expect us to resign Bailey. I've noticed we mainly have two DL on the field with Tamba/Houston at the line as well.
We'll have Poe, Bailey, Cat will be back, Walker and Howard (who has looked pretty good for 3rd string on the depth chart).

Going by Dorsey's history, I think he'll draft to replace a high contract. He needs to to get the cap ready for Houston and Poe (and maybe Berry).

Trae Waynes would be a great pick. Another prospect like Phillip Gaines, and we need help there with Cooper struggling and Owens being a dumpster fire.

That or receiver. I think they can get a good WR like Diggs in rd 2 though.

Like your TE pick. I'd be pumped if our draft had those 3 in it.
Catapano is Bigfoot at this point. The dude is a myth.

Poe is going to cost money. A lot of it.

Goldman is currently at 320 lb. and could carry a lot more on that frame if needed. He could play either the DE spot or DT. And Walker, Howard and Vickerson and just dudes.

Eddie Goldman is an immediate upgrade at RDE in the base set and insurance against Poe getting/taking huge money after 2015.
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Catapano is Bigfoot at this point. The dude is a myth.

Poe is going to cost money. A lot of it.

Goldman is currently at 320 lb. and could carry a lot more on that frame if needed. He could play either the DE spot or DT. And Walker, Howard and Vickerson and just dudes.

Eddie Goldman is an immediate upgrade at RDE in the base set and insurance against Poe getting/taking huge money after 2015.
People said the same thing about Kelce. Cat was a growing player and I think he will be back next year.

I wouldn't mind Eddie Goldman, especially since we have so many picks.
But I don't want to draft him simply to replace Poe.
I would rather draft to replace Bowe and/or S.Smith so we can use the money saved from them to sign Poe.

We can't let Poe go. He's a top 5 interior DL.
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People said the same thing about Kelce. Cat was a growing player and I think he will be back next year.

I wouldn't mind Eddie Goldman, especially since we have so many picks.
But I don't want to draft him simply to replace Poe.
I would rather draft to replace Bowe and/or S.Smith so we can use the money saved from them to sign Poe.

We can't let Poe go. He's a top 5 interior DL.
I agree, but those max contracts can cripple a team and you'd rather have that money going to a rush end or QB than a nose. He'll get paid, but I'm not so sure that that money could be better utilized to keep the overall continuity of the team intact.

You could literally draft a guy like him every four years or so and get the same level of production.

Goldman or the University of Washington's Danny Shelton (who I also like a ton in this draft and is very "Poe-esque" in terms of his build and game, though Shelton might be even better in terms of ability to collapse the pocket at the same stage) would be a very nice insurance policy that goes towards Dontari leaving after the 2015 season.

And I'm not so sure that there's a first round WR that fits this system to the degree of using a first round pick on one. Odell Beckham last year, sure. But the two guys I have in this draft - Diggs and Dorsett - both possess that true breakaway speed that is utilized in the YAC that this system should flourish upon and should be available in the mid-rounds. (Diggs buried himself a bit this past month with his suspension and will drop.)

At this point, the BPA in the first round is really looking like a trench player on either side of the ball. I like the defensive players better than the o-line guys in this draft. Goldman gives you a little more diversity than Shelton, but either would be nice.
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I agree, but those max contracts can cripple a team and you'd rather have that money going to a rush end or QB than a nose. He'll get paid, but I'm not so sure that that money could be better utilized to keep the overall continuity of the team intact.

You could literally draft a guy like him every four years or so and get the same level of production.

Goldman or the University of Washington's Danny Shelton (who I also like a ton in this draft and is very "Poe-esque" in terms of his build and game, though Shelton might be even better in terms of ability to collapse the pocket at the same stage) would be a very nice insurance policy that goes towards Dontari leaving after the 2015 season.

And I'm not so sure that there's a first round WR that fits this system to the degree of using a first round pick on one. Odell Beckham last year, sure. But the two guys I have in this draft - Diggs and Dorsett - both possess that true breakaway speed that is utilized in the YAC that this system should flourish upon and should be available in the mid-rounds. (Diggs buried himself a bit this past month with his suspension and will drop.)

At this point, the BPA in the first round is really looking like a trench player on either side of the ball. I like the defensive players better than the o-line guys in this draft. Goldman gives you a little more diversity than Shelton, but either would be nice.
I agree, but Alex's contract isn't breaking the bank. It's gonna be middle of the pack next year with the cap inflation and 2011 class getting big contracts.

Tamba, Bowe and S. Smith have big contracts. Top 5 paid guys. We already have Tamba's replacement. If we can get Sean Smith's, along with cutting expendable players, we should have enough to keep them. We just won't be big spenders in FA, which is completely fine with me seeing how Dorsey has crafted this team.

I agree about a WR. I think all the top guys will be gone and I don't wanna reach.
Also agree on the trenches comment. Bailey is a strong guy but he's barely 300 lbs. A bigger more athletic guy like Poe would sure help us a lot.
Still have La'El Collins in mind. LG is killing us and RT isn't that much better. For some reason Stephenson can't get on the field which isn't good.

Dorsey has publicly stated he believes the trenches are the most important part of your team after QB and Andy's history agrees with this.
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Love the in-depth, objective analysis.

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I agree, but Alex's contract isn't breaking the bank. It's gonna be middle of the pack next year with the cap inflation and 2011 class getting big contracts.

Tamba, Bowe and S. Smith have big contracts. Top 5 paid guys. We already have Tamba's replacement. If we can get Sean Smith's, along with cutting expendable players, we should have enough to keep them. We just won't be big spenders in FA, which is completely fine with me seeing how Dorsey has crafted this team.

I agree about a WR. I think all the top guys will be gone and I don't wanna reach.
Also agree on the trenches comment. Bailey is a strong guy but he's barely 300 lbs. A bigger more athletic guy like Poe would sure help us a lot.
Still have La'El Collins in mind. LG is killing us and RT isn't that much better. For some reason Stephenson can't get on the field which isn't good.

Dorsey has publicly stated he believes the trenches are the most important part of your team after QB and Andy's history agrees with this.
Collins is a nice player, but it depends on what they think they have in Allen and how the other guys develop like Kush, LDT, etc. I personally thought that Allen was going to have a breakout year this season. He put a lot of work in and he's got a great attitude. Injury killed that possibility for 2014 but Fulton has been getting better each game and looks to be okay so far.

I think that getting a high level guy for DeVito's position (if he can't come back from that achilles) is important for the defense, especially a guy that can be solid against the run while providing some degree of a push upfield.
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Collins is a nice player, but it depends on what they think they have in Allen and how the other guys develop like Kush, LDT, etc. I personally thought that Allen was going to have a breakout year this season. He put a lot of work in and he's got a great attitude. Injury killed that possibility for 2014 but Fulton has been getting better each game and looks to be okay so far.

I think that getting a high level guy for DeVito's position (if he can't come back from that achilles) is important for the defense, especially a guy that can be solid against the run while providing some degree of a push upfield.
I wouldn't mind that. I think Eddie Goldman will be gone. Maybe Mario Edwards. Christian Covington is another good prospect as well.
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I love this draft desperately, but you should honestly consider substituting in a WR of your choosing over a DE, who's rarely going to see the field since the Chiefs are in love with Poe and Bailey in their frequently-played subpackages.

This lineup doesn't give us any WRs. We're going go to hit the field with Bowe, Avery, and Jenkins as our WRs AGAIN.

What's your plan there?
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I love this draft desperately, but you should honestly consider substituting in a WR of your choosing over a DE, who's rarely going to see the field since the Chiefs are in love with Poe and Bailey in their frequently-played subpackages.

This lineup doesn't give us any WRs. We're going go to hit the field with Bowe, Avery, and Jenkins as our WRs AGAIN.

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3. Stefon Diggs, WR; Maryland: 6'0", 195 lbs.
- Originally I had Diggs as the Chiefs pick in the first round. However, Diggs, while leading the Terrapins in receiving in 2014, has been suspended by the team for his part in the pre-game dust up against Penn State last weekend. Might be suspended even further by the conference for contact with a referee. Questions about his route running are out there as well. A pretty talented WR draft will push Diggs down into the second or third rounds. But make no mistake, Diggs can flat out play. Insanely fast and intense. He's the type of guy that can turn a field when the ball is in his hands. Former five star recruit and #2 rated prep WR.



Previous pick: Rashard Greene, WR; Florida State

4. Phillip Dorsett, WR; Miami: 5'10", 195 lb.
- Dorsett, an absolute burner, is having a record setting season. He's currently averaging 30.1 ypc on 19 receptions with 6 TDs with two games where he's averaged 50 ypc and 47 ypc. That's insane. True breakaway speed with open field elusiveness, Dorsett is a rocket ship with the ball in his hands. In Reid's West Coast system, it's all about the yards after the catch and Dorsett is doing that better than anyone in college football currently.

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Not a big fan of just bringing in more undersized speed WRs. We already have 4 of them on the team, 5 if you count DAT.

I'd much rather grab a guy who can help in the red zone and play in a style that's similar to the Bowes, Jeffreys, Fitzgeralds, Boldins, and Marshalls of the league. This ball control offense would look even better with another receiver who can just physically dominate a DB.

Jaelen Strong in the 1st or Duke Williams in the 2nd-3rd. Then you can drop a later pick on a guy like Dorsett. Dorsett himself will likely go higher than the 4th round. I expect him to be gone no later than the 3rd.

This team needs another dependable chain mover so teams can't just focus on Bowe and Kelce on 3rd downs.

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Not a big fan of just bringing in more undersized speed WRs. We already have 4 of them on the team, 5 if you count DAT.

I'd much rather grab a guy who can help in the red zone and play in a style that's similar to the Bowes, Jeffreys, Fitzgeralds, Boldins, and Marshalls of the league. This ball control offense would look even better with another receiver who can just physically dominate a DB.

Jaelen Strong in the 1st or Duke Williams in the 2nd-3rd. Then you can drop a later pick on a guy like Dorsett. Dorsett himself will likely go higher than the 4th round. I expect him to be gone no later than the 3rd.

This team needs another dependable chain mover so teams can't just focus on Bowe and Kelce on 3rd downs.
I'd argue that it doesn't.

This team needs guys with speed who can actually play football. Having Fasano, Kelce, Sherman, DAT, Harris, Charles, Hemingway, etc., means that they have an absolute ass ton of guys who should be effective third down, "move the chains" options.

What this team needs is guys who will open the defense and be able to absolutely turn the field with the ball in their hands. Both Diggs and Dorsett are those types of guys. Might even be the two fastest guys in the entire 2015 draft and they can actually play football. (Imagine that!)
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I'd argue that it doesn't.

This team needs guys with speed who can actually play football. Having Fasano, Kelce, Sherman, DAT, Harris, Charles, Hemingway, etc., means that they have an absolute ass ton of guys who should be effective third down, "move the chains" options.

What this team needs is guys who will open the defense and be able to absolutely turn the field with the ball in their hands. Both Diggs and Dorsett are those types of guys. Might even be the two fastest guys in the entire 2015 draft and they can actually play football. (Imagine that!)
Sure we have a few TEs, Kelce will be great, Fasano is a steady vet, and Harris has potential and I expect bigger things from him next year. But I'm talking specifically about the WR position.

Hemingway? Really? He isn't close to being good enough right now and his ceiling is arguably the lowest on this entire roster. We need another WR who can physically win outside on a level that's at least on par with the 30+ year old Bowe. There is plenty of team speed for Reid to scheme with between Jenkins, DAT, Charles, Avery, Wilson, and Hammond. This team has too many gadget players as it is, IMO, and needs another consistent WR so teams can't just key in on Bowe.

I like Dorsett, he's a true speed guy with really good ball skills, but I'm not too big of a Diggs fan.
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