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Old 05-18-2017, 02:23 AM  
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Chris Cornell (Audioslave / Soundgarden) dead at 52

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According to his representative, rocker Chris Cornell, who gained fame as the lead singer of Soundgarden and later Audioslave, has died at age 52.

In a statement to The Associated Press, Brian Bumbery says Cornell died Wednesday night in Detroit.

Bumbery called the death "sudden and unexpected" and said his wife and family were shocked by it. The statement said the family would be working closely with the medical examiner to determine the cause and asked for privacy.

Cornell was still a working musician until very recently, and performed a show hours before he died. He was last pictured by the press was a little over a month ago, at a screening of The Promise in New York with his two daughters.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:35 PM   #76
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Many of us have felt down and thought to ourselves that this is what the lowest of the low feels like and there's no coming back from it. I've felt that way plenty of times. I'd threaten myself with suicide at times, but i knew in the back of my head i'd never do it, no matter how i felt at that moment. I came across this, below. It really put shit into perspective:

http://head-heart-health.com/3583/10...-kill-yourself

Hello Sir

I guess you’re pretty serious about committing suicide if you’re searching for it on the internet. There’s a hell of a lot of information out there but I wanted to tell you ten things you should know before you kill yourself.

First of all, I know you are probably a guy. That’s because 78% of people who take their own lives are male. There are lots of reasons for that, but the main one is that you keep everything bottled up inside you because you’re trying to ‘be there’ for everyone else. You don’t have to you know. Talking about how you’re feeling is the bravest thing a man can ever do. But that’s not why I’m here.

I’m here to tell you what happens next after you decide to end your pain.

ONE (1) :

The person who finds your body is probably your wife or one of your kids. You will have chosen a method that is violent and the image of your dead body with the noose, the gun or the plastic bag will be forever etched on the mind of that person who finds you. It will be the last thing she sees before she goes to sleep and the first image she sees upon waking. It will flash into her mind at random moments and leave her completely traumatised. She will forever associate colours, smells, shapes, and noises with that moment when her life was fractured into pieces.

TWO (2) :

When the police arrive, they will treat your wife as a suspect. Your death will be deemed as ‘suspicious’ and the house will be cordoned off as a crime scene. Ambulances, fire-engines and police cars will line the street. People will crane their necks to see what is going on. Your private decision will become the subject of public speculation. The room where you died will never be able to be used again. There will be stains on the chair, on the carpet, on the walls. Most likely, your family will have to move.

THREE (3) :

Your private life will be raked over by the police who will go through your wallet, your phone and your computer looking for someone to blame for your death. All the while, your wife will be unable to eat or sleep and her tears will make her beautiful eyes haunted and lost.

FOUR (4) :

There will be an autopsy to determine how you died. There will be questions about your relationship, your job, your finances, your health and your drug and alcohol consumption. If you’ve managed to destroy your body in your final act, your wife will have to formally identify you. She will no longer remember you as alive and breathing, she will only remember you lying still, battered and violated on the cold slab of a mortuary.

And all the time, the voice in her head will scream “Why?” That voice never stops.

FIVE (5) :

Your wife won’t be able to work for a long while and the money will run out. It will take months, maybe even years for her to get any sort of payout. And if you haven’t left a will, she will have to prove to the courts that she is entitled to your money. Lawyers will ask if there was another woman, other children, another life. She will have to prove that she was your wife over and over again.

SIX (6) :

Your friends and family will find it difficult to believe that you did this without provocation. They will search for someone to blame. And that person will be your wife. They will whisper that she drove you to it. They will find it hard to be around her. She will have to survive this thing on her own.

SEVEN (7) :

Your wife will blame herself. No matter what the circumstances, she will know that she didn’t love you enough or support you enough to keep you alive. Her sense of failure will overwhelm her. She will relive the last days and hours before your death searching for the moment when she could have made a difference.

EIGHT (8) :

If they report your death in the papers, the journalist will be deliberately vague. You will join the long list of men who have been “found dead”. They will never print the word suicide, but everyone will know what happened.

Bubba Smith, the American football star who found fame on screen playing Hightower in the Police Academy movies, has died at the age of 66. Smith was found dead at his home in Los Angeles. The cause of death has not been confirmed, but police have said it did not appear to be suspicious. ~ BBC News
Even your wife and children will rarely mention the word suicide when telling your story. They will fabricate a lie to cover their shame and hurt. Saying you died of a heart attack is the usual thing.

NINE (9) :

Your son won’t have you around to teach him how to drive. Your daughter will have no-one to walk her down the aisle on her wedding day. Your wife won’t have a safe place to go when her own pain needs soothing. You will miss out on their lives.

TEN (10) :

This pain of losing you doesn’t heal. It eventually gets numbed by the challenge of getting on with life with a part missing, but the thought of you is always just below the surface.

When you take your life, you take the life of your wife, your kids, your parents, your siblings and your friends. There is no choice for them. They have to live with this burden for the rest of their lives. No matter what you’ve done, no matter who you are, no-one will be better off without you.

I’m not here to tell you what to do with your life. It’s up to you. All I want to do is tell you what really happens to those of us left behind.

Sleep on it. Wait until tomorrow. Call someone. Talk.

Stay alive. We need you. We love you more than you’ll ever know.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:41 PM   #77
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All just excuses justifying the ultimate selfish act. Lots of people struggle with addiction and don't end their lives. Who hasn't stood on that cliffside and looked down into the abyss? Only the weak and selfish take that next step. I have had two close friends shoot themselves and end it all. Each time it is the families that paid the price for their actions and it never goes away. I know I sound bitter, because I am. I miss my friends and they left me with the guilt of what could I have done?

I am sure Chris's band mates, family, friends and his millions of fans all would have helped him in any way. Such a senseless tragic end for a multi- talented guy.

I've read a ton of rock biographies and I'll never understand the appeal of heroin. I get that it's bar none the most difficult drug to kick but why would anyone **** with it in the first place. So many musicians in the prime of their careers do the most depraved shit to get their next fix. That would suck being on tour and have to travel to the seedy parts of every city in the country to score some H.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:51 PM   #78
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:59 PM   #79
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I've posted on here about it a couple of times but I grew up in Pierre, SD. In a three year period....11 people killed themselves. Some of them were kids that I went to school with. Some of those were because of a ****ing stupid suicide pact that they all had together. First kid took his life and everyone else had agreed that they would do it too.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/05/us...ves-scars.html

What you posted made me think of one of the adults that killed himself. Dude left behind a family.....wife....2 daughters and a son. He shot himself in the head but not before he covered the entire bathroom in white sheets so that he didn't "leave behind a mess".
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:09 PM   #80
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This is a valuable lesson that those things don't buy happiness. Maybe for a short while.

This has triggered a memory that has me now agreeing with you. I run with a large social group here. One woman, Heather, was my then wife's best friend. Everyone loved her and she was so cool. I loved her very much (not physically though she was beautiful too).

Well, she couldn't have kids. The fertility medication they gave her made her crazy, literally. And it depressed her even more about not being able to have children.

She was going to counselling, her husband and mother, who moved out here from Ohio to be with her only daughter, alternated being with her with the counselor.

One day in January a few years ago, she simply got in a cab and was driven from Phoenix to the Hoover Damn Bridge. She got out of the cab and just threw herself off the bridge. She had HOURS to think it through and did it without hesitation.

Here is the story: https://www.casino.org/news/suicide-...s-dirty-secret

I'm feeling your pain now Halfcan. That photo haunts me. That is NOT the woman I saw in the grocery store. It is so sad to see her like this. Peace.
This is the 3rd suicide story that I has come across my FB page this week. The other two were young teenagers with their whole life in front of them. I did not know the kids but my friends did and are pretty devastated by it.

It always makes me think of my buddies that didn't make it. My friend Mike was a big Royals fan- and he missed us winning the World Series.

Your friend's story is so sad. All those people that loved her.
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Wow- Detoxing - pretty powerful stuff.

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That has got to be a record for the fastest autopsy ever...don't those usually take at least a few days???
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I've posted on here about it a couple of times but I grew up in Pierre, SD. In a three year period....11 people killed themselves. Some of them were kids that I went to school with. Some of those were because of a ****ing stupid suicide pact that they all had together. First kid took his life and everyone else had agreed that they would do it too.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/05/us...ves-scars.html

What you posted made me think of one of the adults that killed himself. Dude left behind a family.....wife....2 daughters and a son. He shot himself in the head but not before he covered the entire bathroom in white sheets so that he didn't "leave behind a mess".
Holy smokes that is horrible. Those poor kids.

One of the kids I coached in Basketball came home and found his Dad hanging in the back yard. No note, warning, nothing. It messed him up pretty bad and he was going down a bad path. I worked hard with him and he straightened out. He has kids of his own now. A year later another kid on my team found his Dad (my assistant coach) dead from an intentional overdose. It changed him from a Great kid to one that ended up in prison.

You are not just killing yourself, but killing a piece of everyone that you love.
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So if you feel my words of being selfish are harsh it is nothing compared to the pain they caused.
And clearly, you have zero understanding of Clinical Depression.
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That has got to be a record for the fastest autopsy ever...don't those usually take at least a few days???
its not an autopsy, its just the coroner's or whoever's take - from my understanding.....i could be wrong but I don't think they need a full autopsy to conclude it was death by suicide or homicide...
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And clearly, you have zero understanding of Clinical Depression.
I think I covered that with Dave.

The end result, no matter the reason- is still the same.
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I think I covered that with Dave.

The end result, no matter the reason- is still the same.
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Holy smokes that is horrible. Those poor kids.

One of the kids I coached in Basketball came home and found his Dad hanging in the back yard. No note, warning, nothing. It messed him up pretty bad and he was going down a bad path. I worked hard with him and he straightened out. He has kids of his own now. A year later another kid on my team found his Dad (my assistant coach) dead from an intentional overdose. It changed him from a Great kid to one that ended up in prison.

You are not just killing yourself, but killing a piece of everyone that you love.
Man, I have several brothers from Afghanistan that have opted out. I don't blame them. It's easy to say bad shit about choosing to end it when you haven't done what they've done or seen what they've seen. That shit never ever goes away. It doesn't get easier and it doesn't change. Some dudes can cope and some can't. I totally get how somebody gets there and don't fault them for it.
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What part did you not understand? I have been depressed to the point of no return.

Was it "clinical" depression - which I guess you are meaning a chemical imbalance- no but it was still horrible.

I had two uncles that had depression. We would be opening our Christmas presents and they would just start crying, saying that everyone is going to die. It was pretty scary to see as a kid.

So keep saying I don't "understand" what it is like to be depressed or be around those that are inflicted with the disease. It still does not change the fact that it is the ultimate selfish act when it comes to those left behind to pick up the pieces.
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