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Old 05-18-2017, 02:23 AM  
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Chris Cornell (Audioslave / Soundgarden) dead at 52

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According to his representative, rocker Chris Cornell, who gained fame as the lead singer of Soundgarden and later Audioslave, has died at age 52.

In a statement to The Associated Press, Brian Bumbery says Cornell died Wednesday night in Detroit.

Bumbery called the death "sudden and unexpected" and said his wife and family were shocked by it. The statement said the family would be working closely with the medical examiner to determine the cause and asked for privacy.

Cornell was still a working musician until very recently, and performed a show hours before he died. He was last pictured by the press was a little over a month ago, at a screening of The Promise in New York with his two daughters.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:00 PM   #91
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Man, I have several brothers from Afghanistan that have opted out. I don't blame them. It's easy to say bad shit about choosing to end it when you haven't done what they've done or seen what they've seen. That shit never ever goes away. It doesn't get easier and it doesn't change. Some dudes can cope and some can't. I totally get how somebody gets there and don't fault them for it.
Man what a tragedy. They fight for our country, make it back safe, but in a way never left the war.

My ex Father in Law was in Viet Nam. He never talked about it much. One year he came home drunk off his ass and fell into the Christmas tree, just smashed the hell out of all the presents and broke the fake tree in half. He duct taped it and nobody said much. We were talking afterward. He said he found some old Marine stuff and was thinking about his buddies, so went to drink himself into oblivion- didn't even remember falling into the tree or driving home that night.

His squad got pinned down. He said he hid nose high in a swamp for three days while his buddies were slowly tortured. I can still hear them screaming sometimes, he said. Also added that was not the worst thing he went through.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:06 PM   #92
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Man what a tragedy. They fight for our country, make it back safe, but in a way never left the war.

My ex Father in Law was in Viet Nam. He never talked about it much. One year he came home drunk off his ass and fell into the Christmas tree, just smashed the hell out of all the presents and broke the fake tree in half. He duct taped it and nobody said much. We were talking afterward. He said he found some old Marine stuff and was thinking about his buddies, so went to drink himself into oblivion- didn't even remember falling into the tree or driving home that night.

His squad got pinned down. He said he hid nose high in a swamp for three days while his buddies were slowly tortured. I can still hear them screaming sometimes, he said. Also added that was not the worst thing he went through.
We never hid in a swamp be we had more than our fair share of terrible. I get it man, I was so strung out on opiates for years after I'm surprised I didn't die from that.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:09 PM   #93
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I've read a ton of rock biographies and I'll never understand the appeal of heroin. I get that it's bar none the most difficult drug to kick but why would anyone **** with it in the first place. So many musicians in the prime of their careers do the most depraved shit to get their next fix. That would suck being on tour and have to travel to the seedy parts of every city in the country to score some H.
I am pretty sure it was Dan Akroyd that talked about that when mentioning John Belushi. He said it was the same part of John's creative side that also made him destructive.

Have you read the Ray Charles biography? He was on it forever until getting busted and finally getting clean. The Keith Richards book Life goes into his addictions pretty deep- basically lost decades. And of the course the Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx. Some say his book was all bullshit, but since he died, I think he was telling the truth.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:10 PM   #94
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I am becoming clinically depressed from reading Dane and Halfcan argue about depression.
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We never hid in a swamp be we had more than our fair share of terrible. I get it man, I was so strung out on opiates for years after I'm surprised I didn't die from that.
I can't even imagine what you guys go through during a war. Big props to you for conquering your addictions. It is heartbreaking hearing about our servicemen and women that come back to the States and end up taking their own life. The numbers are staggering.

Makes you wonder how a rock star like Cornell can't make it - when a hero like you, that has been through war, can fight their way back? Glad you beat the demons!
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:22 PM   #97
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I am becoming clinically depressed from reading Dane and Halfcan argue about depression.


Yesterday it was DJ and today it is Depression. I think there a real disconnect from what I am saying to what he Thinks I am saying. I will start choosing my words more wisely.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:26 PM   #98
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I am pretty sure it was Dan Akroyd that talked about that when mentioning John Belushi. He said it was the same part of John's creative side that also made him destructive.

Have you read the Ray Charles biography? He was on it forever until getting busted and finally getting clean. The Keith Richards book Life goes into his addictions pretty deep- basically lost decades. And of the course the Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx. Some say his book was all bullshit, but since he died, I think he was telling the truth.
Um, Nikki Sixx is still alive, AFAIK.
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Um, Nikki Sixx is still alive, AFAIK.
Yep- they Kick Started his Heart.
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I saw them that tour with Skid Row as well. It was my birthday. After the show we were leaving and walking by the tour buses. The Sound Garden guys were all hanging outside the bus having some beers. My friend mentioned it was my B-day so they gave me a beer and we partied with them.

The Skid guys were dicks except for Bas. He was awesome to the fans. At one point it was Chris, me and Bas standing there having a beer. I was just soaking up the conversation. They were both very funny and had some great stories.

Very sad to hear Chris has passed. He had so much music left in him. Was planning to see them this tour. RIP my friend.
That concert was actually on my 20th birthday, which is I remember when it was. I actually left shortly after Soundgarden stopped playing because I wasn't into the big hair/glam bands of the 80's. That would have been pretty cool to have met either of those bands back in the day.
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To be an true artist is to live in a world of duality...where the same force that drives creativity mutually drives destruction...there rarely is middle ground and violently play off each other. Build and destroy...anyone worth their salt in the arts knows this. You're harnessing the power of (+)/(-) polarity in Hermetic terms...then emitting the results in bursts. It's what Occultists refer to as mental alchemy/ transmutation...they seek heroin and what not to soften the destructive side of the pendulum swing (ebb/flow) between the poles. Usually this in on an unconscious level...

It exists in all living things (this duality) but not usually in extremities....that's why people flock to stadiums to witness it.

Your high points are way more electrically charged than the normal person..and that comes with a price...the lows come with the temptation to off yourself and say "**** it". Like the saying goes "careful what you wish for"...you may be inadvertently tapping into forces you might not be prepared to handle. Once that force in harnessed...there in no putting it back. Hendrix, Morrison Cobain, Van Gogh, Hemmingway...the story repeats...and always will.

The energy they emitted vicariously through their medium..is why we talk about them long after their dead...I'm sure that's why the term "star" was coined..burn bright.

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Holy smokes that is horrible. Those poor kids.

One of the kids I coached in Basketball came home and found his Dad hanging in the back yard. No note, warning, nothing. It messed him up pretty bad and he was going down a bad path. I worked hard with him and he straightened out. He has kids of his own now. A year later another kid on my team found his Dad (my assistant coach) dead from an intentional overdose. It changed him from a Great kid to one that ended up in prison.

You are not just killing yourself, but killing a piece of everyone that you love.
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I barely made it out of that myself. I wanted to kill myself after he died. Luckily I have 2 daughters, and now 2 granddaughters that have helped me along my road to learning how to live again.
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What part did you not understand? I have been depressed to the point of no return.

Was it "clinical" depression - which I guess you are meaning a chemical imbalance- no but it was still horrible.

I had two uncles that had depression. We would be opening our Christmas presents and they would just start crying, saying that everyone is going to die. It was pretty scary to see as a kid.

So keep saying I don't "understand" what it is like to be depressed or be around those that are inflicted with the disease. It still does not change the fact that it is the ultimate selfish act when it comes to those left behind to pick up the pieces.

Just because you have dealt with it, doesn't mean you understand it fully as made clear by your posts.

People who hit rock bottom depression do not think about leaving behind family and friends. Their inner pain is too much to bear. This isn't about you, it's about them. Friends and family aren't giving them any feeling of worth either. It's why there is no thought about those they are leaving behind. That's clinical depression.

You are unable to rationalize your friends suicides. I get it. The depressed mind is unable to rationalize it as well. While you see it as a selfish act of leaving behind loved ones, for many their inner pain is too much and the thought of how loved one's will cope after their death is seldom crossed in the depressed mind.
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Lost my son 7 years ago. Was 11 days from his 17th birthday. And less that 2 weeks before his favorite team, the Colts we're going to play in the SB. Still never understand it. Kid had a bright future ahead of him. My wife thinks he wanted to be caught, but idk. I think he was too smart and was dealing with depression that he wasn't sharing with anyone. I'll never get over it. I made this video for him years ago. I still cry my eyes out when I watch it.



I barely made it out of that myself. I wanted to kill myself after he died. Luckily I have 2 daughters, and now 2 granddaughters that have helped me along my road to learning how to live again.
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