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Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 05:20 PM

Zona goes down. They had a 7 minute FG drought in a crucial part of the game. Offense and free throw shooting would be their undoing in the big dance. Not a very balanced team.

**Buehler445** · 03-08-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Zona goes down. They had a 7 minute FG drought in a crucial part of the game. Offense and free throw shooting would be their undoing in the big dance. Not a very balanced team.

I'll admit, I haven't seen them much, but the little bit I have seen them play, I thought they were very quick and disciplined. I'm sure a guy that hadn't seen much of KU that thinks we blow nutsack. Maybe I saw a good one and you saw a bad one, but they looked salty when I saw them.

Pants · 03-08-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The fact that he's both a star and has beaten KU twice in crushing fashion that is the main catalyst in the incredible level of butthurt we're seeing.

I disagree. That's not at all at how I personally feel and I don't see any evidence of this in the posts from the KU fanbase nor any other.

I think you're no longer capable of being objective in this argument.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I'll admit, I haven't seen them much, but the little bit I have seen them play, I thought they were very quick and disciplined. I'm sure a guy that hadn't seen much of KU that thinks we blow nutsack. Maybe I saw a good one and you saw a bad one, but they looked salty when I saw them.

Nick Johnson is their go-to guy and he's about as up and down as Tharpe on offense. On defense Zona is fantastic, but they make it extremely hard on themselves by always needing their D to create O. That's a lot of pressure they put on themselves. I'm not sure what their stats are on offense but it's not fun to watch. They really can't sustain any offense and that was even with Brandon Ashley. He (a PF mind you) was their best perimeter scorer. Not good. Now their backup guard Gabe York is their best perimeter shooter. They just aren't a balanced team. All these teams have flaws though. Gotta love March.

**Bearcat** · 03-08-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I disagree. That's not at all at how I personally feel and I don't see any evidence of this in the posts from the KU fanbase nor any other.

I think you're no longer capable of being objective in this argument.

It's pretty much trolling at this point.

KC_Connection · 03-08-2014, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I disagree. That's not at all at how I personally feel and I don't see any evidence of this in the posts from the KU fanbase nor any other.

Right, the week long bitch fest in this thread had nothing to do with the fact that Smart beat this team down last week.

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I think you're no longer capable of being objective in this argument.

When did I ever say I was capable of being objective here? Nobody here is.

KC_Connection · 03-08-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's pretty much trolling at this point.

That's a funny way to describe not being willing to jump on a silly bandwagon of hate for a college athlete.

KC_Connection · 03-08-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Zona goes down. They had a 7 minute FG drought in a crucial part of the game. Offense and free throw shooting would be their undoing in the big dance. Not a very balanced team.

Defense should be good enough to grind out some wins, though. Best in the nation.

If I was to pick a champion right now, though, it would be Florida.

O.city · 03-08-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Defense should be good enough to grind out some wins, though. Best in the nation.

If I was to pick a champion right now, though, it would be Florida.

They just struggle to score. Kind of remind me of last years KU team, save much better guard play

**Buehler445** · 03-08-2014, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Defense should be good enough to grind out some wins, though. Best in the nation.

If I was to pick a champion right now, though, it would be Florida.

Agree. They're playing man's ball.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Defense should be good enough to grind out some wins, though. Best in the nation.

If I was to pick a champion right now, though, it would be Florida.

Yeah they are playing the best ball out of anyone, regardless of their weak conference. I love Donovan, he's so flexible as a coach. He adjusts the type of O and D he plays to fit the personnel every year. He's not stubborn at all like a lot of successful coaches.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They just struggle to score. Kind of remind me of last years KU team, save much better guard play

Zona does remind me of some of our great defensive teams. While they do have better guard play than we did last year they still play sometimes in the backcourt like they have no arms like our backcourts of previous years. Sometimes they play junior high offense out there.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 07:58 PM

Duke is f'ed when they play a team with a good front court.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 09:34 PM

Embiid is going to Cali to see a back specialist, Huggins gets more extra cash for beating KU (25k) than he does for making the NCAA tournament (20k)

Morgantown, W.Va. — Kansas University freshman center Joel Embiid was to fly to Los Angeles Sunday and visit a back specialist on Monday morning, coach Bill Self confirmed to the Journal-World after the Jayhawks’ 92-86 loss to West Virginia on Saturday at WVU Coliseum.

The 7-foot Embiid, who has been bothered by back issues for several weeks now, did not make the trip to Morgantown for the game.

‘We wanted to get a second opinion and wanted to send him to the very best authority,” Self said, not identifying the name of the doctor. “He’ll leave on Sunday and see him (doctor) Monday morning.”

Self said he remained hopeful Embiid, who missed Wednesday’s game against Texas Tech, would be available soon. It is believed surgery will not be needed to correct this back problem.

“Hopefully we get real positive news,” Self said. “Hopefully he can be on the practice floor very very soon. We will not put him out there just because he feels better but because the doctors says it’s time to get back out there. Hopefully it will be real soon, if not we’ll sit him a little longer. We still don’t think it will affect (his participation in) the NCAA Tournament in any way,” Self added.

Embiid’s tweets during the game: “Come on.” “We got this.” “He’s the best y’all.”

Zip: KU point guard Naadir Tharpe had zero points and zero assists against one turnover in a season-low 16 minutes Saturday.

“I need to make sure I’m ready to play and we all are ready,” Tharpe said. “Everyone as a whole. I need to be better to help the guys as well.”

He said Self told him “just be a leader. Try to keep my head up when things are going wrong. I felt we tried to give something. At the time we were trying to give it, it wasn’t clicking for us,” Tharpe stated.

Flat Jayhawks: Self’s Jayhawks appeared flat after Senior Day festivities on Wednesday.

“If you have to get up to play a game that’s on national TV,” Self said, his voice trailing off. “If you are a guard you get a chance to play against the best scoring 2-guard in the league. If you are a point guard, you get to play against the best point guard in the league. To me you should be up automatically about those things.”

Point guard Juwan Staten had 24 points and nine assists; shooting guard Eron Harris 28 points and three assists.

“We didn’t appear to be as up as we could from an energy standpoint. I don’t want to use that as an excuse. Guys have got to get up; that’s not a factor,” Self said.

Noted forward Jamari Traylor: “We came out flat. You dig a hole like that (25-point deficit) it’s hard to come back against a good team like West Virginia. We tried to show our guys, play all out and make it a close game, but came up short.”

Wooden list: KU’s Andrew Wiggins was named one of 15 finalists for the Wooden Award on Saturday. Others: Kyle Anderson, Cleanthony Early, Tyler Ennis, C.J. Fair, Gary Harris, Nick Johnson, Sean Kilpatrick, Doug McDermott, Shabazz Napier, Jabari Parker, Casey Prather, Julius Randle, Russ Smith and Nik Stauskas.

West Virginia coach Bob Huggins is now 1-7 versus KU. Thanks to a clause in his 2012 contract extension, he receives a $25,000 bonus when the Mountaineers beat KU.

Huggins was asked this week if KU coach Bill Self is overlooked nationally.

“I can’t speak for your business. I know in mine he’s not overlooked. I think everybody understands the guy has won everywhere he’s ever been,” Huggins said. “He’s done phenomenal things at Kansas. But not just Kansas. Look at what he did at Illinois. Look what he did at Tulsa. Look at what he did at Oral Roberts.”

Huggins on Andrew Wiggins: “Generally when you are going to be the first or second pick in the draft you are pretty good. He has great athleticism. He’s made plays very few people can make. He missed a layyup against Kansas State, came back and tipped it in. He was out of bounds about when he shot it. He jumped back in quicker than everybody else and tipped it in. You don’t see that very often. Those are generally the guys that are the first couple draft picks.”l

Awards coming Sunday: The Big 12 today will announce its all-league teams as well as specialty awards, such as coach and player of the year. The announcements will come via the Big 12 twitter feed (@Big12Conference) followed by Big12sports.com. The honors announcement will begin at noon with the awards announced in five-minute increments.

Recruiting: Myles Turner, a 6-11 senior center from Trinity High in Euless, Texas, who is ranked No. 6 nationally by Rivals.com, is visiting Duke this weekend. He attended Wednesday’s KU-Texas Tech game. He’s also considering Texas, Arizona, SMU, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M and Kentucky.

“Everything was planned for the seniors, but still, they (staff) made us feel like we were the No. 1 priority there, so it was a great experience for Myles. And now, going to Duke to experience the rivalry, it's just a fantastic weekend,” Turner’s dad, David, told jayhawkslant.com.

Of the recruiting process, Myles Turner told myfoxdfw.com: “I’m not trying to create a whole bunch of drama with this.”

He indicated he did not want to sign in the early period so scouts would continue to come to his games and perhaps offer his teammates scholarships even if they are on the Div. II or III levels.

Kansas will enter the Big 12 championship (Wednesday-Saturday) in Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo., as the No. 1 seed. The Jayhawks will meet the winner of Wednesday’s No. 8-9 game (Oklahoma State vs. Texas Tech) at 2 p.m., Thursday. KU has had a first-round bye in 17 of the 18 Big 12 championships. KU has been the No. 1 seed in the event 11 times, including each of the last six seasons.

This, that: Bill Self is 3-1 vs. West Virginia. ... West Virginia shot 10 free throws before KU went to the line for the first time, which resulted in a three-point play for Perry Ellis at the 9:43 mark in the first half. ... West Virginia had a 25-point lead (64-39) in the second half, KU’s biggest deficit of the season – surpassing the 18-point deficit at Florida. ... Andrew Wiggins has 522 points on the year, passing Xavier Henry (483, 2010) and Danny Manning (496, 1985) for the second-place position on the all-time KU freshmen scoring list. He now only trails Ben McLemore (596, 2013) as the school’s all-time freshmen scoring leader. Naadir Tharpe is one point shy of his 500th career point. Jamari Traylor is 33-for-43 for a team-best 76.7 field goal percentage in conference games.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2014, 09:39 PM

Lunardi currently has us as the 2 seed in the Midwest with WSU as the 1.

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ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $8004961	** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 #10 (23-8,14-4) Players Spoiler! Returning Players 1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr. 3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So. 4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr. 10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So. 11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So. 20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr. 21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr. 31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So. 33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr. 34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So. Incoming Class SF * Wayne Selden C * Joel Embiid PG Conner Frankamp SF Brannen Greene PG Frank Mason SF * Andrew Wiggins Transfers Hunter Mickelson Tarik Black Non Conference Spoiler! 11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0) 11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0) 11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0) 11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0) 11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0) 11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1) 11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1) 12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2) 12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3) 12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3) 12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3) 12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3) 1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4) Conference Spoiler!** 1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0) 1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W(86-60)(11-4,2-0) 1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa W(77-70)(12-4,3-0) 1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W(80-78)(13-4,4-0) 1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W(78-68)(14-4,5-0) 1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W(91-69)(15-4,6-0) 1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W(92-81)(16-4,7-0) 2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas L(69-81)(16-5,7-1) 2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas W(69-52)(17-5,8-1) 2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W(83-69)(18-5,9-1) 2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L(82-85)(18-6,9-2) 2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W(95-65)(19-6,10-2) 2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W(64-63)(20-6,11-2) 2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W(85-54)(21-6,12-2) 2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W(83-75)(22-6,13-2) 3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L(65-72)(22-7,13-3) 3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W(82-57)(23-7,14-3) 3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L(86-92)(23-8,14-4) Big 12 Championship 3/13/2014 Texas Tech/Oklahoma State Kansas City, Mo. 2PM ESPN2 Last edited by ArrowheadHawk; 03-10-2014 at 11:22 AM..
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03-08-2014, 05:20 PM	#2656
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7938717	Zona goes down. They had a 7 minute FG drought in a crucial part of the game. Offense and free throw shooting would be their undoing in the big dance. Not a very balanced team. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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03-08-2014, 07:58 PM	#2668
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7938717	Duke is f'ed when they play a team with a good front court. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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03-08-2014, 09:34 PM	#2669
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7938717	Embiid is going to Cali to see a back specialist, Huggins gets more extra cash for beating KU (25k) than he does for making the NCAA tournament (20k) Morgantown, W.Va. — Kansas University freshman center Joel Embiid was to fly to Los Angeles Sunday and visit a back specialist on Monday morning, coach Bill Self confirmed to the Journal-World after the Jayhawks’ 92-86 loss to West Virginia on Saturday at WVU Coliseum. The 7-foot Embiid, who has been bothered by back issues for several weeks now, did not make the trip to Morgantown for the game. ‘We wanted to get a second opinion and wanted to send him to the very best authority,” Self said, not identifying the name of the doctor. “He’ll leave on Sunday and see him (doctor) Monday morning.” Self said he remained hopeful Embiid, who missed Wednesday’s game against Texas Tech, would be available soon. It is believed surgery will not be needed to correct this back problem. “Hopefully we get real positive news,” Self said. “Hopefully he can be on the practice floor very very soon. We will not put him out there just because he feels better but because the doctors says it’s time to get back out there. Hopefully it will be real soon, if not we’ll sit him a little longer. We still don’t think it will affect (his participation in) the NCAA Tournament in any way,” Self added. Embiid’s tweets during the game: “Come on.” “We got this.” “He’s the best y’all.” Zip: KU point guard Naadir Tharpe had zero points and zero assists against one turnover in a season-low 16 minutes Saturday. “I need to make sure I’m ready to play and we all are ready,” Tharpe said. “Everyone as a whole. I need to be better to help the guys as well.” He said Self told him “just be a leader. Try to keep my head up when things are going wrong. I felt we tried to give something. At the time we were trying to give it, it wasn’t clicking for us,” Tharpe stated. Flat Jayhawks: Self’s Jayhawks appeared flat after Senior Day festivities on Wednesday. “If you have to get up to play a game that’s on national TV,” Self said, his voice trailing off. “If you are a guard you get a chance to play against the best scoring 2-guard in the league. If you are a point guard, you get to play against the best point guard in the league. To me you should be up automatically about those things.” Point guard Juwan Staten had 24 points and nine assists; shooting guard Eron Harris 28 points and three assists. “We didn’t appear to be as up as we could from an energy standpoint. I don’t want to use that as an excuse. Guys have got to get up; that’s not a factor,” Self said. Noted forward Jamari Traylor: “We came out flat. You dig a hole like that (25-point deficit) it’s hard to come back against a good team like West Virginia. We tried to show our guys, play all out and make it a close game, but came up short.” Wooden list: KU’s Andrew Wiggins was named one of 15 finalists for the Wooden Award on Saturday. Others: Kyle Anderson, Cleanthony Early, Tyler Ennis, C.J. Fair, Gary Harris, Nick Johnson, Sean Kilpatrick, Doug McDermott, Shabazz Napier, Jabari Parker, Casey Prather, Julius Randle, Russ Smith and Nik Stauskas. West Virginia coach Bob Huggins is now 1-7 versus KU. Thanks to a clause in his 2012 contract extension, he receives a $25,000 bonus when the Mountaineers beat KU. Huggins was asked this week if KU coach Bill Self is overlooked nationally. “I can’t speak for your business. I know in mine he’s not overlooked. I think everybody understands the guy has won everywhere he’s ever been,” Huggins said. “He’s done phenomenal things at Kansas. But not just Kansas. Look at what he did at Illinois. Look what he did at Tulsa. Look at what he did at Oral Roberts.” Huggins on Andrew Wiggins: “Generally when you are going to be the first or second pick in the draft you are pretty good. He has great athleticism. He’s made plays very few people can make. He missed a layyup against Kansas State, came back and tipped it in. He was out of bounds about when he shot it. He jumped back in quicker than everybody else and tipped it in. You don’t see that very often. Those are generally the guys that are the first couple draft picks.”l Awards coming Sunday: The Big 12 today will announce its all-league teams as well as specialty awards, such as coach and player of the year. The announcements will come via the Big 12 twitter feed (@Big12Conference) followed by Big12sports.com. The honors announcement will begin at noon with the awards announced in five-minute increments. Recruiting: Myles Turner, a 6-11 senior center from Trinity High in Euless, Texas, who is ranked No. 6 nationally by Rivals.com, is visiting Duke this weekend. He attended Wednesday’s KU-Texas Tech game. He’s also considering Texas, Arizona, SMU, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M and Kentucky. “Everything was planned for the seniors, but still, they (staff) made us feel like we were the No. 1 priority there, so it was a great experience for Myles. And now, going to Duke to experience the rivalry, it's just a fantastic weekend,” Turner’s dad, David, told jayhawkslant.com. Of the recruiting process, Myles Turner told myfoxdfw.com: “I’m not trying to create a whole bunch of drama with this.” He indicated he did not want to sign in the early period so scouts would continue to come to his games and perhaps offer his teammates scholarships even if they are on the Div. II or III levels. Kansas will enter the Big 12 championship (Wednesday-Saturday) in Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo., as the No. 1 seed. The Jayhawks will meet the winner of Wednesday’s No. 8-9 game (Oklahoma State vs. Texas Tech) at 2 p.m., Thursday. KU has had a first-round bye in 17 of the 18 Big 12 championships. KU has been the No. 1 seed in the event 11 times, including each of the last six seasons. This, that: Bill Self is 3-1 vs. West Virginia. ... West Virginia shot 10 free throws before KU went to the line for the first time, which resulted in a three-point play for Perry Ellis at the 9:43 mark in the first half. ... West Virginia had a 25-point lead (64-39) in the second half, KU’s biggest deficit of the season – surpassing the 18-point deficit at Florida. ... Andrew Wiggins has 522 points on the year, passing Xavier Henry (483, 2010) and Danny Manning (496, 1985) for the second-place position on the all-time KU freshmen scoring list. He now only trails Ben McLemore (596, 2013) as the school’s all-time freshmen scoring leader. Naadir Tharpe is one point shy of his 500th career point. Jamari Traylor is 33-for-43 for a team-best 76.7 field goal percentage in conference games. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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03-08-2014, 09:39 PM	#2670
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7938717	Lunardi currently has us as the 2 seed in the Midwest with WSU as the 1. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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