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Pushead2 · 11-03-2014, 01:13 PM

I searched for a thread or post about this podcast, but didn't see anything.

Anyone else been following and listening to the episodes? I'm completely hooked. It's so compelling and just absolutely intriguing.

Here's a brief summary from the podcast's site:

On January 13, 1999, a girl named Hae Min Lee, a senior at Woodlawn High School in Baltimore County, Maryland, disappeared. A month later, her body turned up in a city park. She'd been strangled. Her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend, Adnan Syed, was arrested for the crime, and within a year, he was convicted and sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. The case against him was largely based on the story of one witness, Adnan’s friend Jay, who testified that he helped Adnan bury Hae's body. But Adnan has always maintained he had nothing to do with Hae’s death. Some people believe he’s telling the truth. Many others don’t.

Sarah Koenig, who hosts Serial, first learned about this case more than a year ago. In the months since, she's been sorting through box after box (after box) of legal documents and investigators' notes, listening to trial testimony and police interrogations, and talking to everyone she can find who remembers what happened between Adnan Syed and Hae Min Lee fifteen years ago. What she realized is that the trial covered up a far more complicated story, which neither the jury nor the public got to hear. The high school scene, the shifting statements to police, the prejudices, the sketchy alibis, the scant forensic evidence - all of it leads back to the most basic questions: How can you know a person’s character? How can you tell what they’re capable of? In Season One of Serial, she looks for answers.

I provided some helpful links below:

Podcast: www.serialpodcast.org

Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/

Pushead2 · 11-08-2014, 10:13 AM

I'm not a sick **** or anything like that, but I'd love to see the crime scene / police photos. From what I've read on reddit - they were linked or posted but I can't find them. Perhaps any of y'all could?

I'm going off this statement:
[–]whitneywoooo 11 points 12 hours ago
this...the strangling (sp?) and body-in-trunk pics made my stomach turn...

keg in kc · 11-08-2014, 01:45 PM

Got all the way through the first 7. I don't think there's been any point so far where I thought he did it. But is that because it's a weak case (which it's sounded like from the very beginning) or because I'm being skillfully manipulated by the podcast producers to believe that?

**Buck** · 11-08-2014, 03:21 PM

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The Nisha call to me is troubling, but I don't think it's the smoking gun. the conversation they're clearly talking about isn't the one on the day of Hae's murder. He didn't work at the video store then. Who's to say Jay didn't speak to her & she thought it was Adnan? It could be SO many things but it's clear the recollection of the call isn't that particular Nisha call.

Another fact that gets me as odd is that Jenn knew that Hae was strangled but that information wasn't listed to the public yet. How did she know that??

My biggest damning clue towards Adnan is he claimed that Jay & him were just acquaintances but he lent him his car & hung out with him a few times before he was arrested. What kind of acquaintance is that?

Yes. The why did Adnan lend his phone and car question is the most befuddling.

Not to sully anyone's character but I think that Jay and Adnan may have done something so bad together previously that they each had dirt on each other, and when it came time for the killing, whichever one killed Hae told the other one that, "you're helping me, or I'm gonna tell the cops what you did before."

Jay keeps telling the cops in his interviews he was scared Adnan would rat on him for selling weed, but what if selling weed was just code for "that one time we raped a girl" or something similar?

Pushead2 · 11-09-2014, 11:06 AM

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Yes. The why did Adnan lend his phone and car question is the most befuddling.

Not to sully anyone's character but I think that Jay and Adnan may have done something so bad together previously that they each had dirt on each other, and when it came time for the killing, whichever one killed Hae told the other one that, "you're helping me, or I'm gonna tell the cops what you did before."

Jay keeps telling the cops in his interviews he was scared Adnan would rat on him for selling weed, but what if selling weed was just code for "that one time we raped a girl" or something similar?

Very true - a lot of people believe it wasn't just weed, but something a lot more damning.

We'll see, I'm excited to see what we find out on episode 8. People on reddit claim Jay had changed his name on FB and can no longer be discovered.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 11-09-2014, 03:30 PM

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Very true - a lot of people believe it wasn't just weed, but something a lot more damning.

We'll see, I'm excited to see what we find out on episode 8. People on reddit claim Jay had changed his name on FB and can no longer be discovered.

his name is now Slim Wilds. Jenn Pusateri is also on FB.

Pushead2 · 11-09-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

his name is now Slim Wilds. Jenn Pusateri is also on FB.

Yeah I saw Jenn on there and that's what he changed it to? Did he really think he was going to outsmart the internet?

Odd thing if you read his FB, he said in Aug that it wasn't safe to post on FB. I bet that was SK contacting him about the show.

Pushead2 · 11-10-2014, 05:12 PM

Here's the google hangout with Rabia & Saad.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c...srlh5liqk311vs

**Baby Lee** · 11-10-2014, 11:37 PM

uproxx weighs in

http://uproxx.com/webculture/2014/11...-out-about-it/

Pushead2 · 11-11-2014, 02:48 PM

That's a good call on the hangout with Saad and Rabia.

Everyone is thinking its "The Deal with Jay" as in what's his deal? But in reality, they'll probably talk about the deal he got.

keg in kc · 11-11-2014, 03:11 PM

I hadn't even considered that it might be about something other than his plea deal.

It's been interesting reading the reddit for the podcast, and will be interesting to see what else she reveals and in what order and just how everything looks by the end.

keg in kc · 11-13-2014, 07:08 AM

Another fascinating episode, although the first half made me want to claw my ears off every time the defense attorney spoke. She was just grating as hell. Like a school teacher mixed with an evangelist mixed with nails on a chalkboard.

Whole episode about Jay and I'm left as confused and uncertain by him and his part as I was before.

**Buck** · 11-13-2014, 12:55 PM

I wish that episode was longer. Seemed too short, especially when it ended without a Jay interview.

Also yeah, that ****ing lawyer would have made me feel her client was guilty too, just by association. What an annoying woman.

Pushead2 · 11-13-2014, 05:24 PM

Man this podcast is so clutch in regards to getting us feeling all turned upside down about who did what.

It was Jay's friend that retold the pool hall story that makes me finalize that Adnan may have done it.

They spoke about, how can Jay feel threatened by Adnan, that it didn't make sense. Yeah it does - he just showed a dead body to him. He's capable of murder.

**Baby Lee** · 11-13-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushead2

Man this podcast is so clutch in regards to getting us feeling all turned upside down about who did what.

It was Jay's friend that retold the pool hall story that makes me finalize that Adnan may have done it.

They spoke about, how can Jay feel threatened by Adnan, that it didn't make sense. Yeah it does - he just showed a dead body to him. He's capable of murder.

I'm almost at the point, when it comes to real life situations, if I'm not going to get unfettered access to all evidence adduced, I'd rather not know more.

It's very frustrating to listen to something that, no matter how well meaning, is giving me another small sliver of the story in the guise of giving me the rest of the story.

My analytical skills are primally [yes perhaps primarily too, but I meant to say primally] driven by the urge to answer 'What am I not seeing here? Where are the gaps? What is being withheld? What's going to bite me in the ass if I face it unprepared?'

And this broadcast just piles and piles these questions on for me.

keg in kc · 11-14-2014, 07:56 AM

She's done a great job at keeping everyone guessing for 8 weeks, that's for sure.

As it stands right now, on what little information we've actually received via the podcast (and a bit more I've read online...) I would say that I don't believe Adnan guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but at the same time I don't believe there's been anything presented to this point which indicates that he didn't murder her (or that someone else did). I'm starting to think that maybe he did. But I'm also wondering if that's not what SK is wanting us to believe, by keeping him off the podcast, for the most part, over the last two weeks. But I don't believe the narrative that was presented in court, and I do not, in any way, believe the prosecution's star witness. Hence my doubt.

Jay is clearly unreliable, clearly (to me) was coached to match his story to the prosecution's phone tower timeline, and was I believe more involved with the crime than just being shown the body after the fact and helping to bury it. And it really bothers me that he was able to skate off with two years probation in exchange for what appears to be constructing a false narrative which resulted in Adnan's life sentence (whether said life sentence is deserved or not, for the real crime, which I don't believe matches the story he told in court). I also think it's possible that Jenn Pusateri was more involved.

In any case, they've done a great job at setting the hook. There's no way I'm missing the last few weeks of this, and whatever "resolution" (if any....) is yet to come.

11-03-2014, 01:13 PM
Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7431882	Serial Podcast I searched for a thread or post about this podcast, but didn't see anything. Anyone else been following and listening to the episodes? I'm completely hooked. It's so compelling and just absolutely intriguing. Here's a brief summary from the podcast's site: On January 13, 1999, a girl named Hae Min Lee, a senior at Woodlawn High School in Baltimore County, Maryland, disappeared. A month later, her body turned up in a city park. She'd been strangled. Her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend, Adnan Syed, was arrested for the crime, and within a year, he was convicted and sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. The case against him was largely based on the story of one witness, Adnan’s friend Jay, who testified that he helped Adnan bury Hae's body. But Adnan has always maintained he had nothing to do with Hae’s death. Some people believe he’s telling the truth. Many others don’t. Sarah Koenig, who hosts Serial, first learned about this case more than a year ago. In the months since, she's been sorting through box after box (after box) of legal documents and investigators' notes, listening to trial testimony and police interrogations, and talking to everyone she can find who remembers what happened between Adnan Syed and Hae Min Lee fifteen years ago. What she realized is that the trial covered up a far more complicated story, which neither the jury nor the public got to hear. The high school scene, the shifting statements to police, the prejudices, the sketchy alibis, the scant forensic evidence - all of it leads back to the most basic questions: How can you know a person’s character? How can you tell what they’re capable of? In Season One of Serial, she looks for answers. I provided some helpful links below: Podcast: www.serialpodcast.org Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/
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11-08-2014, 10:13 AM	#16
Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7431882	I'm not a sick ** or anything like that, but I'd love to see the crime scene / police photos. From what I've read on reddit - they were linked or posted but I can't find them. Perhaps any of y'all could? I'm going off this statement: [–]whitneywoooo 11 points 12 hours ago this...the strangling (sp?) and body-in-trunk pics made my stomach turn... __________________ "** up once, lose two teeth....”
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11-08-2014, 01:45 PM	#17
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Got all the way through the first 7. I don't think there's been any point so far where I thought he did it. But is that because it's a weak case (which it's sounded like from the very beginning) or because I'm being skillfully manipulated by the podcast producers to believe that?
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11-10-2014, 05:12 PM	#22
Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7431882	Here's the google hangout with Rabia & Saad. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c...srlh5liqk311vs __________________ "**** up once, lose two teeth....”
Posts: 5,193

11-10-2014, 11:37 PM	#23
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	uproxx weighs in http://uproxx.com/webculture/2014/11...-out-about-it/ __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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11-11-2014, 02:48 PM	#24
Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7431882	That's a good call on the hangout with Saad and Rabia. Everyone is thinking its "The Deal with Jay" as in what's his deal? But in reality, they'll probably talk about the deal he got. __________________ "**** up once, lose two teeth....”
Posts: 5,193

11-11-2014, 03:11 PM	#25
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I hadn't even considered that it might be about something other than his plea deal. It's been interesting reading the reddit for the podcast, and will be interesting to see what else she reveals and in what order and just how everything looks by the end.
Posts: 58,682

11-13-2014, 07:08 AM	#26
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Another fascinating episode, although the first half made me want to claw my ears off every time the defense attorney spoke. She was just grating as hell. Like a school teacher mixed with an evangelist mixed with nails on a chalkboard. Whole episode about Jay and I'm left as confused and uncertain by him and his part as I was before.
Posts: 58,682

11-13-2014, 12:55 PM	#27
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $8329900	Serial Podcast I wish that episode was longer. Seemed too short, especially when it ended without a Jay interview. Also yeah, that ***ing lawyer would have made me feel her client was guilty too, just by association. What an annoying woman. Last edited by Buck; 11-13-2014 at 01:00 PM..*
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11-13-2014, 05:24 PM	#28
Pushead2 **** off Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Casino cash: $7431882	Man this podcast is so clutch in regards to getting us feeling all turned upside down about who did what. It was Jay's friend that retold the pool hall story that makes me finalize that Adnan may have done it. They spoke about, how can Jay feel threatened by Adnan, that it didn't make sense. Yeah it does - he just showed a dead body to him. He's capable of murder. __________________ "**** up once, lose two teeth....”
Posts: 5,193

11-14-2014, 07:56 AM	#30
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	She's done a great job at keeping everyone guessing for 8 weeks, that's for sure. As it stands right now, on what little information we've actually received via the podcast (and a bit more I've read online...) I would say that I don't believe Adnan guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but at the same time I don't believe there's been anything presented to this point which indicates that he didn't murder her (or that someone else did). I'm starting to think that maybe he did. But I'm also wondering if that's not what SK is wanting us to believe, by keeping him off the podcast, for the most part, over the last two weeks. But I don't believe the narrative that was presented in court, and I do not, in any way, believe the prosecution's star witness. Hence my doubt. Jay is clearly unreliable, clearly (to me) was coached to match his story to the prosecution's phone tower timeline, and was I believe more involved with the crime than just being shown the body after the fact and helping to bury it. And it really bothers me that he was able to skate off with two years probation in exchange for what appears to be constructing a false narrative which resulted in Adnan's life sentence (whether said life sentence is deserved or not, for the real crime, which I don't believe matches the story he told in court). I also think it's possible that Jenn Pusateri was more involved. In any case, they've done a great job at setting the hook. There's no way I'm missing the last few weeks of this, and whatever "resolution" (if any....) is yet to come.
Posts: 58,682