Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 24

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-24-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

So? It was a second round pick. It was not a first round pick as was stated. This is a fact. I'm not sure what you are even talking about, or how it relates to my post.

Paul Kruger
Kenechi Osemele
Ray Rice
Terrance Cody
Courtney Upshaw

Those are five players the Ravens took in the 2nd round in the 2008-12 drafts.

**BossChief** · 03-24-2013, 10:41 PM

Here's the question...what kind of player could we have gotten by packaging our 34rd overall with the next years third and moved up to 21-26?

Would that player give us more, long term, than Alex Smith will?

**BossChief** · 03-24-2013, 10:53 PM

We could draft Geno and use the picks we used on Alex Smith to move up into the 20s to take Warmack or Cooper if we are hellbent on spending more premium resources on the OL.

Albert
Warmack
Hudson
Asamoah
Allen/Stephenson

That's a damn good line.

HolyHat · 03-24-2013, 11:47 PM

What do all these coaches have in common?
- Urban Meyer
- Norv Turner
- Mike Martz
- Jim Harbaugh

Yes, they are all considered brilliant offensive minds. They have also all coached Alex Smith. So using the excuse that Andy Reid will bring out the best in this pile of shit is stupid. This guy has had a laundry list of not good, but great offensive/QB coaches.

The best of all those (Jim Harbaugh) didn't think Alex was good enough to play for his team anymore. A lot of you Alex Smith ball washers are somehow forgetting this. I don't want to hear the BS about Kaperdick.

Harbaugh knew in 2011 that he didn't want Smith, that's why he traded up with the Donkeys. The niners gave up 2 picks and swapped their 2nd rounder for Kap! Harbaugh wanted Smith out YEAR 1!

Why? Because he knew he wasn't good enough. That's ****ing why.

You wanna bitch about us using the word mediocrity? Guess what, Alex God Damn Smith IS the ****ing definition of mediocrity.

If you think any different you are either 1) high 2) delusional 3) ignorant 4) homosexual

If Alex were a free agent I would have ZERO issue with him being here, but since we have given up not one, but two high round draft picks I'm absolutely sick over it. Do you have any idea how much ****ing talent comes out of the 2nd round? Do you?

NOT WORTH IT!

Sorter · 03-24-2013, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

It was a second round pick.

They're so invaluable. ****, just take a look at these 2nd round players since 2009. Absolutely a disgusting excuse for talent, IMO. Clearly, 2nd round picks are just a waste.

Louis Delmas
Patrick Chung
James Laurinatis
Eben Britton
Jairus Byrd
Connor Barwin
Max Unger
Andy levitre
Leshaun McCoy
Phil Loadholt
William Moore
Paul Kruger
Sal Vollmer
Will Beatty
Sean Smith
Roger Saffold
Brian Brice
TJ Ward
Gronk
Daryl Washington
Jason Worlids
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Terrence Cody
Golden Tate
Ben Tate
Brandon Spikes
Pat Angerer
Andy Dalton
Colin Kaepernick
Jabaal Sheard
Akeem Ayers
Bruce Carter
Brooks Reed
Kyle Rudolph
Stefen Wisinieski
Rodney Hudson
Mikel Leshoure
Torrey Smith
Greg Little
Randall Cobb
Coby Fleener
Courtney Upshaw
Derek Wolfe
Mitchell Schwartz
Janoris Jenkins
Cordy Glenn
Alshon Jeffery
Mychal Kendricks
Bobby Wagner
Kendall Reyes
Devon Still
Ryan Broyles
Peter Konz
Mike Adams
Lavonte David
Kelechi Osemele
Lamichael James
Casey Heyward

splatbass · 03-24-2013, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception

They're so invaluable. ****, just take a look at these 2nd round players since 2009. Absolutely a disgusting excuse for talent, IMO. Clearly, 2nd round picks are just a waste.

Louis Delmas
Patrick Chung
James Laurinatis
Eben Britton
Jairus Byrd
Connor Barwin
Max Unger
Andy levitre
Leshaun McCoy
Phil Loadholt
William Moore
Paul Kruger
Sal Vollmer
Will Beatty
Sean Smith
Roger Saffold
Brian Brice
TJ Ward
Gronk
Daryl Washington
Jason Worlids
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Terrence Cody
Golden Tate
Ben Tate
Brandon Spikes
Pat Angerer
Andy Dalton
Colin Kaepernick
Jabaal Sheard
Akeem Ayers
Bruce Carter
Brooks Reed
Kyle Rudolph
Stefen Wisinieski
Rodney Hudson
Mikel Leshoure
Torrey Smith
Greg Little
Randall Cobb
Coby Fleener
Courtney Upshaw
Derek Wolfe
Mitchell Schwartz
Janoris Jenkins
Cordy Glenn
Alshon Jeffery
Mychal Kendricks
Bobby Wagner
Kendall Reyes
Devon Still
Ryan Broyles
Peter Konz
Mike Adams
Lavonte David
Kelechi Osemele
Lamichael James
Casey Heyward

He claimed it was a first round pick when it was a second. I have no idea what this has to do with that.

HolyHat · 03-24-2013, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

He claimed it was a first round pick when it was a second. I have no idea what this has to do with that.

If you look at the chart that rates picks off a points system, you combine this years second with next years 2nd or 3rd and you have essentially given up a first round talent. One of the 2 players we would have drafted in those rounds would end up a franchise player or game changer. Guaranteed.

So drop your stupid ****ing argument that its a 2nd round pick. We know what it IS. IT IS ESSENTIALLY A FIRST ROUND PICK. shut the **** up about it you clowndick mother ****er.

splatbass · 03-24-2013, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

If you look at the chart that rates picks off a points system, you combine this years second with next years 2nd or 3rd and you have essentially given up a first round talent. One of the 2 players we would have drafted in those rounds would end up a franchise player or game changer. Guaranteed.

So drop your stupid ****ing argument that its a 2nd round pick. We know what it IS. IT IS ESSENTIALLY A FIRST ROUND PICK. shut the **** up about it you clowndick mother ****er.

1. Nothing in the draft is guaranteed.

2. It was a second this year and an undetermined pick next year. It was not a first.

3. You are a dick.

jd1020 · 03-25-2013, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

If you look at the chart that rates picks off a points system, you combine this years second with next years 2nd or 3rd and you have essentially given up a first round talent. One of the 2 players we would have drafted in those rounds would end up a franchise player or game changer. Guaranteed.

So drop your stupid ****ing argument that its a 2nd round pick. We know what it IS. IT IS ESSENTIALLY A FIRST ROUND PICK. shut the **** up about it you clowndick mother ****er.

There's no use trying to explain it to him.

It's too complicated for him to comprehend a 1st round talent because they were drafted in round 2 and that 2 confuses him when you are talking about 1st talent.

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:06 AM

Here is the chart I'm talking about that gives a numerical value to draft picks. Grab a calculator.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

splatbass · 03-25-2013, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

There's no use trying to explain it to him.

It's too complicated for him to comprehend a 1st round talent because they were drafted in round 2 and that 2 confuses him when you are talking about 1st talent.

Have you looked at our second round picks the last 10 years? Which one was a first round talent?

You can't make a second round pick into a first round by talking about an unknown player that hasn't even been drafted yet. You are making that pick a first round talent when it could just as easily be a bust. The fact that you think you need to exaggerate to make your point says more about you than anything.

jd1020 · 03-25-2013, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

Have you looked at our second round picks the last 10 years? Which one was a first round talent?

Well that settles it.

The Chiefs haven't been good with 2nd round picks the last few years. Therefore, all of those 1-2 projected players that fall to the 2nd are all terrible players.

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

Have you looked at our second round picks the last 10 years? Which one was a first round talent?

You can't make a second round pick into a first round by talking about an unknown player that hasn't even been drafted yet. You are making that pick a first round talent when it could just as easily be a bust. The fact that you think you need to exaggerate to make your point says more about you than anything.

The fact that you continue to go on with you asinine argument says it all. I want @drake to murder your vagina

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

Have you looked at our second round picks the last 10 years? Which one was a first round talent?

You can't make a second round pick into a first round by talking about an unknown player that hasn't even been drafted yet. You are making that pick a first round talent when it could just as easily be a bust. The fact that you think you need to exaggerate to make your point says more about you than anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Well that settles it.

The Chiefs haven't been good with 2nd round picks the last few years. Therefore, all of those 1-2 projected players that fall to the 2nd are all terrible players.

If I had the time/patience I would absolutely obliterate this person off the face of the earth with proven facts of draft picks. Unfortunately I'd rather cut my sack off with an AIDS infected butter knife. Good night

splatbass · 03-25-2013, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

The fact that you continue to go on with you asinine argument says it all. I want @drake to murder your vagina

My argument is truth. You can't say that the 34th pick this year is a first round talent - you don't even know who it will be or who the Chiefs would have taken with it. It is absurd.

03-23-2013, 03:29 PM
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Expectations and Alex Smith Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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03-24-2013, 10:41 PM	#347
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03-24-2013, 10:53 PM	#348
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1914088	We could draft Geno and use the picks we used on Alex Smith to move up into the 20s to take Warmack or Cooper if we are hellbent on spending more premium resources on the OL. Albert Warmack Hudson Asamoah Allen/Stephenson That's a damn good line. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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