Surtain to the Giants?

Realbaddog · 03-09-2005, 10:54 AM

Found this on another BB:FF Today Forums
Surtain to the Giants?
but can't agree on compensation. I do not have a link, this info comes from a personal source, fairly reliable. The Giants wanted smoot, reworked the contracts of Strahan, Tiki, sean williams, and someone else to pay him, but smoot went to minny. They would have then traded will allen to St. Louis for a pick.

Since that did not happen, they discussed surtain and working a deal for slightly less than what they would have given smoot. They offered the 2nd rounder, Miami wants allen and the second rounder. It is unclear at this time whether this snag will cancel the deal.

BigChiefFan · 03-09-2005, 10:56 AM

If Surtain is cheaper than Smoot, than what are we waiting for? This guy is one of the top CBs in the game and instantly upgrades our secondary. Pull the trigger, Carl.

OctoberFart · 11-18-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If Surtain is cheaper than Smoot, than what are we waiting for? This guy WAS one of the top CBs in the game and instantly upgrades our secondary. Pull the trigger, Carl.

I changed it for you.

DenverChief · 11-18-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

I ate my own poop for you.

MGRS13 · 03-09-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Realbaddog

Found this on another BB:FF Today Forums
Surtain to the Giants?
but can't agree on compensation. I do not have a link, this info comes from a personal source, fairly reliable. The Giants wanted smoot, reworked the contracts of Strahan, Tiki, sean williams, and someone else to pay him, but smoot went to minny. They would have then traded will allen to St. Louis for a pick.

Since that did not happen, they discussed surtain and working a deal for slightly less than what they would have given smoot. They offered the 2nd rounder, Miami wants allen and the second rounder. It is unclear at this time whether this snag will cancel the deal.

If they can't agree on compensation they are as far along as we are with a trade.

farmerchief · 03-09-2005, 11:05 AM

Since that did not happen, they discussed surtain and working a deal for slightly less than what they would have given smoot. They offered the 2nd rounder, Miami wants allen and the second rounder. It is unclear at this time whether this snag will cancel the deal.[/QUOTE]

We could give them our second rounder and throw in Burntree!!!!!

farmerchief

KCTitus · 03-09-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief

We could give them our second rounder and throw in Burntree!!!!!

farmerchief

Im pretty sure if CP were worth his weight in salt, he could get this deal done by trading Bartee straight up.

Bootlegged · 03-09-2005, 11:11 AM

Ok, we'll give Miami;
Bartee, McCleon, Woods, Wesley, Mitchell, Beisel, Hicks, Sims for Surtain. Sounds about even.

KCTitus · 03-09-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Ok, we'll give Miami;
Bartee, McCleon, Woods, Wesley, Mitchell, Beisel, Hicks, Sims for Surtain. Sounds about even.

Wow...better hope that KC doesnt have any players get injured next year.

ModSocks · 03-09-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Ok, we'll give Miami;
Bartee, McCleon, Woods, Wesley, Mitchell, Beisel, Hicks, Sims for Surtain. Sounds about even.

What's wrong with Wesley? the guy has one baaad season cuz the rest of our D sucks and you'd wanna trade him?

htismaqe · 03-09-2005, 11:14 AM

This seems bogus.

If they could have gotten smoot, they were going to trade Allen to St. Louis for a pick. Net picks: +1

Otherwise they're going to trade for Surtain - net picks ZERO?

Makes no sense.

Warrior5 · 03-09-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

This seems bogus. If they could have gotten smoot, they were going to trade Allen to St. Louis for a pick. Net picks: +1
Otherwise they're going to trade for Surtain - net picks ZERO? Makes no sense.

Maybe kcnut's source can G2 this.

CHIEF4EVER · 03-09-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

This seems bogus.

If they could have gotten smoot, they were going to trade Allen to St. Louis for a pick. Net picks: +1

Otherwise they're going to trade for Surtain - net picks ZERO?

Makes no sense.

Agreed, makes no sense at all. I think this article is something fresh from the "wild speculation" rumor mill.

Shag · 03-09-2005, 01:01 PM

If Surtain goes somewhere else, I think that'll really hurt the Chiefs. With him off the market, Law is the only big name left, and he'll hold all the cards. He knows we're desperate for CB help, and all other good options would already be off the market (except for Dyson, though he's not near the same level as the rest of the CB FAs this offseason). That would leave the Chiefs either overpaying for Law, sticking with what we have, or trying to draft a rookie starting CB. None of these prospects are thrilling.

KC needs to decide which way they want to go (Law/Surtain) and just do it. Having both guys available helps the Chiefs bargaining position, and they need to take advantage of that while they can.

eazyb81 · 03-09-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

If Surtain goes somewhere else, I think that'll really hurt the Chiefs. With him off the market, Law is the only big name left, and he'll hold all the cards. He knows we're desperate for CB help, and all other good options would already be off the market (except for Dyson, though he's not near the same level as the rest of the CB FAs this offseason). That would leave the Chiefs either overpaying for Law, sticking with what we have, or trying to draft a rookie starting CB. None of these prospects are thrilling.

KC needs to decide which way they want to go (Law/Surtain) and just do it. Having both guys available helps the Chiefs bargaining position, and they need to take advantage of that while they can.

My thoughts exactly

03-09-2005, 10:54 AM	Topic Starter
Realbaddog Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $5147175	Surtain to the Giants? Found this on another BB:FF Today Forums Surtain to the Giants? but can't agree on compensation. I do not have a link, this info comes from a personal source, fairly reliable. The Giants wanted smoot, reworked the contracts of Strahan, Tiki, sean williams, and someone else to pay him, but smoot went to minny. They would have then traded will allen to St. Louis for a pick. Since that did not happen, they discussed surtain and working a deal for slightly less than what they would have given smoot. They offered the 2nd rounder, Miami wants allen and the second rounder. It is unclear at this time whether this snag will cancel the deal.
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BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	If Surtain is cheaper than Smoot, than what are we waiting for? This guy is one of the top CBs in the game and instantly upgrades our secondary. Pull the trigger, Carl. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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farmerchief Field General Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Freeport,Ks Casino cash: $2315067	hmm WE could do something similar!!! Since that did not happen, they discussed surtain and working a deal for slightly less than what they would have given smoot. They offered the 2nd rounder, Miami wants allen and the second rounder. It is unclear at this time whether this snag will cancel the deal.[/QUOTE] We could give them our second rounder and throw in Burntree!!!!! farmerchief
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03-09-2005, 11:11 AM	#8
Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9985545	Ok, we'll give Miami; Bartee, McCleon, Woods, Wesley, Mitchell, Beisel, Hicks, Sims for Surtain. Sounds about even.
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03-09-2005, 11:14 AM	#11
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	This seems bogus. If they could have gotten smoot, they were going to trade Allen to St. Louis for a pick. Net picks: +1 Otherwise they're going to trade for Surtain - net picks ZERO? Makes no sense.
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03-09-2005, 01:01 PM	#14
Shag MVP Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Casino cash: $2273342	If Surtain goes somewhere else, I think that'll really hurt the Chiefs. With him off the market, Law is the only big name left, and he'll hold all the cards. He knows we're desperate for CB help, and all other good options would already be off the market (except for Dyson, though he's not near the same level as the rest of the CB FAs this offseason). That would leave the Chiefs either overpaying for Law, sticking with what we have, or trying to draft a rookie starting CB. None of these prospects are thrilling. KC needs to decide which way they want to go (Law/Surtain) and just do it. Having both guys available helps the Chiefs bargaining position, and they need to take advantage of that while they can.
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