Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 66

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 08:12 PM

Just had another near collision with Jay in the OF. He has to take better control of the fielders out there.

kcxiv · 05-25-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Mattingly just double switched Matt Kemp out for Skip Schumaker. Kemp proceeds to dog cuss Mattingly as he hits the pine.

By performing said double switch, Mattingly has now protected the guy who has three hits, three RBI, and has reached base all four times with the pitcher's spot.

im glad kemps weak ass got pissed off, Dude has been a ****ing joke this year. He has like what 2 home runs? i think its 1 actually. Mattingly is going out swining! lol You cant reduce players pay checks or fire big money players, so why not embarrass him a little. Nothing else has worked.

29th in ****ing runs scored with a 200m dollar pay role. Pathetic.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-25-2013, 08:37 PM

Boggs is toast. DFA his ass.

**BigRedChief** · 05-25-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Boggs is toast. DFA his ass.

Shu bailed his ass out from a total disaster of an inning. But he still has no business pitching in the big leagues. He needs to get his head in order.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

im glad kemps weak ass got pissed off, Dude has been a ****ing joke this year. He has like what 2 home runs? i think its 1 actually. Mattingly is going out swining! lol You cant reduce players pay checks or fire big money players, so why not embarrass him a little. Nothing else has worked.

29th in ****ing runs scored with a 200m dollar pay role. Pathetic.

I understand your frustration. I'll also say this: from what I've seen, Mattingly is, along with Ron Roenneke, the worst manager in the National League.

kcxiv · 05-25-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I understand your frustration. I'll also say this: from what I've seen, Mattingly is, along with Ron Roenneke, the worst manager in the National League.

I want Mattingly gone like last month. I agree, he ****ing does stupid shit, but i was ok with him benching Matt during the end of the game like that. Just for the embarrassment part.

Mattingly tries to be that im your friend not your manager type bullshit.

Anyways, yallh ave to face Kershaw and his 1.35 era tomorrow

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 08:53 PM

Crazy idea:

Trade Beltran to a team that needs hitting for a #4 starter entering his FA year. I don't know if Beltran has a NTC, but it might be the only way to stabilize the rotation.

Move Craig to right and Adams to first. I doubt we'd lose much of anything offensively.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

I want Mattingly gone like last month. I agree, he ****ing does stupid shit, but i was ok with him benching Matt during the end of the game like that. Just for the embarrassment part.

Mattingly tries to be that im your friend not your manager type bullshit.

Anyways, yallh ave to face Kershaw and his 1.35 era tomorrow

Yeah, this series was a horrible matchup for us. Two soft tossing lefties and Kershaw. I'm just glad we're not going to get swept.

**BigRedChief** · 05-25-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Anyways, yallh ave to face Kershaw and his 1.35 era tomorrow

He's damn good. But, we don't have a scrub going tomorrow like we did tonight. Miller has a 1.74 ERA. He was a broken bat bloop hit from a perfect game this month.

Should be a great pitchers duel.

**BigRedChief** · 05-25-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Crazy idea:

Trade Beltran to a team that needs hitting for a #4 starter entering his FA year. I don't know if Beltran has a NTC, but it might be the only way to stabilize the rotation.

Move Craig to right and Adams to first. I doubt we'd lose much of anything offensively.

Yes, Beltran has a no trade clause.

**BigRedChief** · 05-25-2013, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

I want Mattingly gone like last month. I agree, he ****ing does stupid shit, but i was ok with him benching Matt during the end of the game like that. Just for the embarrassment part.

Mattingly tries to be that im your friend not your manager type bullshit.

Anyways, yallh ave to face Kershaw and his 1.35 era tomorrow

Who do the Dodger fans want as their next manager? Any rumors of LaRussa?

kcxiv · 05-25-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Who do the Dodger fans want as their next manager? Any rumors of LaRussa?

From what i heard is the reason they havent fired him yet, is they wanna see if Mike Soscia (spelling) gets fired. I have no idea if thats true or not, but Dodger fans love him. Possibly the Dodgers AAA coach Tim Wallach. Its the only 2 names i have heard.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

From what i heard is the reason they havent fired him yet, is they wanna see if Mike Soscia (spelling) gets fired. I have no idea if thats true or not, but Dodger fans love him. Possibly the Dodgers AAA coach Tim Wallach. Its the only 2 names i have heard.

Because Scioscia has done so well with a squad filled with overpriced and overrated free agents...

**BigRedChief** · 05-26-2013, 12:56 PM

Beltran gets the day off. Craig in RF. Adams sits on the bench and Delcasco plays.

Just where is the stats that show Delcasco hits lefties better than Adams. And those stats are so lopsided that we have to keep Adams on the bench.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-26-2013, 01:21 PM

Who the hell is playing 1B?

Although Descalso does seem to have a history of crushing great pitchers.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3259627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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05-25-2013, 08:12 PM	#976
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Just had another near collision with Jay in the OF. He has to take better control of the fielders out there. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Jewish Rabbi What's up braj? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Placencia, Belize Casino cash: $2238320	Boggs is toast. DFA his ass.
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05-25-2013, 08:53 PM	#982
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Crazy idea: Trade Beltran to a team that needs hitting for a #4 starter entering his FA year. I don't know if Beltran has a NTC, but it might be the only way to stabilize the rotation. Move Craig to right and Adams to first. I doubt we'd lose much of anything offensively. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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05-26-2013, 12:56 PM	#989
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3259627 VARSITY	Beltran gets the day off. Craig in RF. Adams sits on the bench and Delcasco plays. Just where is the stats that show Delcasco hits lefties better than Adams. And those stats are so lopsided that we have to keep Adams on the bench. __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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05-26-2013, 01:21 PM	#990
Jewish Rabbi What's up braj? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Placencia, Belize Casino cash: $2238320	Who the hell is playing 1B? Although Descalso does seem to have a history of crushing great pitchers.
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