Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 607

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2013, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Lineup is out for tonight, but I don't want to start the game thread:

1. Cain CF
2. Hosmer 1B
3. Butler DH
4. Gordon LF
5. Tejada 2B
6. Maxwell RF
7. Moose 3B
8. Hayes C
9. Escobar SS

Pitching: Chen vs. Lester

I would rather have Kottaras in there to take walks and for the power hitting vs Brett Hayes, but we know Ned loves the Righty vs Lefty thing.

Prison Bitch · 08-08-2013, 02:37 PM

Miguel Tejada is our 5 hitter. JFC

Nightfyre · 08-08-2013, 02:38 PM

I wonder if the lineup when Salvy gets back will push Butler into the five hole.

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2013, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I wonder if the lineup when Salvy gets back will push Butler into the five hole.

I think it might push Savly into the 5 hole - Cain, Hos, Billy, Gordon, Salvy. Keeps the RLRLR going.

Most likely it goes back to Gordon, Hos, Billy, Salvy

CaliforniaChief · 08-08-2013, 02:45 PM

And here's the lineup for Boston:

1. Ellsbury CF
2. Victorino RF
3. Pedroia 2B
4. Gomes LF
5. Drew SS
6. Napoli DH
7. Nava 1B
8. Saltalamachia C
9. Holt 3B

P. Lester

**Shogun** · 08-08-2013, 02:48 PM

No papi

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2013, 02:50 PM

Duffy to Omaha, Francisley Bueno up, Adam Moore on waivers to make room on the 40-man roster for Bueno.

Cephalic Trauma · 08-08-2013, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Miguel Tejada is our 5 hitter. JFC

You are to the repository thread as that pete guy is to gamethreads.

all the time

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-08-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

You are to the repository thread as that pete guy is to gamethreads.

all the time

CaliforniaChief · 08-08-2013, 03:19 PM

Where the hell is Lewdog to start the game thread???!!?

Raiderhater · 08-08-2013, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

No papi

Did you ever start a thread about getting together at a bar for a game? I might have just missed it. But I am thinking with both the Royals and Chiefs on tomorrow night a sports bar with TVs dedicated to both might be a good time. Of course, thinking usually gets me into trouble so......

CaliforniaChief · 08-08-2013, 03:24 PM

Ah shit, two game threads.

**Shogun** · 08-08-2013, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Did you ever start a thread about getting together at a bar for a game? I might have just missed it. But I am thinking with both the Royals and Chiefs on tomorrow night a sports bar with TVs dedicated to both might be a good time. Of course, thinking usually gets me into trouble so......

I didn't. I forgot to infact, haha. Tomorrow is no bueno for me. I have to work late and likely won't be off work until 6 or later. That would be ideal though. Shit.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 08-08-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Ah shit, two game threads.

That's bad mojo.

Raiderhater · 08-08-2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

I didn't. I forgot to infact, haha. Tomorrow is no bueno for me. I have to work late and likely won't be off work until 6 or later. That would be ideal though. Shit.

It would be ideal, which is why I may have to try and set it up with out you. Though looking at the schedule, both games start at seven.... You could still make it out.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1840308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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