Chiefs Disappointed in McCluster - Page 7

Hammock Parties · 10-10-2010, 08:41 PM

Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's bull****, and you know it. You don't give a guy 30 million guaranteed if you think he's just a transitional character guy.

That is why I said it was a theory. He got 2 years at the franchise number so for a team that is last in payroll it really isn't that big of a deal.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-10-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is why I said it was a theory. He got 2 years at the franchise number so for a team that is last in payroll it really isn't that big of a deal.

And the 2 years of QB development, and the waste of the #3 and #34 overall picks?

**DeezNutz** · 10-10-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I hated the Cassel trade but I do have a theory. Maybe the plan was to bring in a QB that knew the system and the "Patriot Way" knowing all along that after the 2nd year when they are ready to contend they could move on from him unless of course he turned into Tom Brady.

Cassel's ****ing sucktitude has even warped the usually steady dirk. Is there no end to the madness?

Shag · 10-10-2010, 09:45 PM

Bowe has 9 catches, and Chambers has 7. What exactly are you expecting? No WRs on this team are making plays, and I think you can guess why...

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And the 2 years of QB development, and the waste of the #3 and #34 overall picks?

Fair questions. I look at it that they got their Patriot Ways leaders, one on offense and one on Defense to help transition this organization and team.

Like I said it is just a theory.

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Cassel's ****ing sucktitude has even warped the usually steady dirk. Is there no end to the madness?

I am not defending it or even liking it. Just taking a guess.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-10-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Fair questions. I look at it that they got their Patriot Ways guys, one on offense and one on Defense to help transition this organization and team.

Like I said it is just a theory.

That seems to do a pretty good job of leaving out the fact that they gave Cassel 30+ million and they brought in a dickton of former Patriots, anyway.

Coach · 10-10-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That seems to do a pretty good job of leaving out the fact that they gave Cassel 30+ million and they brought in a dickton of former Patriots, anyway.

Well, to be fair, Vrabel was a nice addition, even if he's past his prime.

Cassel, on the other hand.... well, let's just say that I hope the organization is smart enough to let him go after this season.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Who said anything about seasoned vet?

Christ. Read the thread again.

Right now the guy is a glorified backfield gimmick.

Anyone remember the threads about Percy Harvin?

JFC.

Matt Cassel is not Brett Favre.

#1 - he's a rookie in his 4th game playing a brand new position
#2 - his QB isn't hitting open receivers or finding open receivers
#3 - given that his role is supposed to be similar to Welker's, kind of hard to slip underneath coverages when the Safeties know you're not going to throw the ball past 10 yards.

Give him time to learn. And let's see what he does when we have at least average QB play. McCluster's game is completely taken away when the defense has no respect for the deeper pass.

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That seems to do a pretty good job of leaving out the fact that they gave Cassel 30+ million and they brought in a dickton of former Patriots, anyway.

The money is meaningless since they are last or next to last in payroll. If they didn't pay Cassel they would be so far at the bottom it wouldn't be funny.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-10-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Actions speak louder than words.

And they keep throwing him out there, and went out of their way to get him some "help" in the offseason.

I think it's pretty clear they don't think he's the problem.

I don't see how that's clear at all. I don't understand how you're getting from point A to point B.

If they have so much confidence in Cassel, why would they then build their offense around a power running game? And why would Charlie Weis design an offense around dink and dunks?

It's pretty clear in their gameplanning that the coaches don't have confidence in him. And I'm pretty most people are in the school of thought that the front office's moves for more offensive players is pretty blatantly signalling to Cassel that if he fails this season, he can't blame that on poor o-line play or a poor supporting cast.

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't see how that's clear at all. I don't understand how you're getting from point A to point B.

If they have so much confidence in Cassel, why would they then build their offense around a power running game? And why would Charlie Weis design an offense around dink and dunks?

It's pretty clear in their gameplanning that the coaches don't have confidence in him. And I'm pretty most people are in the school of thought that the front office's moves for more offensive players is pretty blatantly signalling to Cassel that if he fails this season, he can't blame that on poor o-line play or a poor supporting cast.

It is painfully obvious they have ZERO confidence in Cassel. The Colts were missing all their safeties and they still didn't throw the ball down the middle of the field or try to take advantage of that.

tk13 · 10-10-2010, 10:11 PM

The other argument you can make is that if they do bring in another QB, they want to bring him into a situation like Sanchez or Roethlisberger was brought into... and not the situation Cassel was brought into. But who knows if that's the case. But I always have thought that sometimes good QB's don't make it because they come into a bad situation.

Just look at Clausen. Nobody would've said this before the season... we all thought the Panthers were a good situation, but they look horrible, and he's played horrible.

Coach · 10-10-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't see how that's clear at all. I don't understand how you're getting from point A to point B.

If they have so much confidence in Cassel, why would they then build their offense around a power running game? And why would Charlie Weis design an offense around dink and dunks?

It's pretty clear in their gameplanning that the coaches don't have confidence in him. And I'm pretty most people are in the school of thought that the front office's moves for more offensive players is pretty blatantly signalling to Cassel that if he fails this season, he can't blame that on poor o-line play or a poor supporting cast.

Which brings up the issue. If the Chiefs are 3-1, and the coaches have no confidence in him, then what is the issue of trying the back-up?

Yeah, he probably didn't perform well in practice or whatever the hell it's all about, but practice setting does not = game setting.

Honestly, I'd like to see what Brodie is capable of at of this point.

**dirk digler** · 10-10-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The other argument you can make is that if they do bring in another QB, they want to bring him into a situation like Sanchez or Roethlisberger was brought into... and not the situation Cassel was brought into. But who knows if that's the case. But I always have thought that sometimes good QB's don't make it because they come into a bad situation.

Just look at Clausen. Nobody would've said this before the season... we all thought the Panthers were a good situation, but they look horrible, and he's played horrible.

That is part of my theory. Cassel is the transition guy who takes all the beatings while they build up the team then they bring in or draft a new QB.

As far as Clausen goes:

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8. Jimmy Clausen isn't close to ready to play. It's a bad sign when the Panthers pick off Bears quarterback Todd Collins four times and hold him to 32 yards on 16 attempts, and yet Carolina wasn't even competitive in a 23-6 loss. This is the worst passing attack since the 2005 49ers. (Alex Smith's rookie year.)

10-10-2010, 08:41 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4800478	Disappointed in McCluster Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever. He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe. That **ing sucks. This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target? I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible. McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy. Don't buy any of his **ing t-shirts.
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10-10-2010, 10:11 PM	#103
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2072500	The other argument you can make is that if they do bring in another QB, they want to bring him into a situation like Sanchez or Roethlisberger was brought into... and not the situation Cassel was brought into. But who knows if that's the case. But I always have thought that sometimes good QB's don't make it because they come into a bad situation. Just look at Clausen. Nobody would've said this before the season... we all thought the Panthers were a good situation, but they look horrible, and he's played horrible.
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