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Old 09-05-2000, 08:01 AM  
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I live in Wichita, for now, and can barely pickup WHB in the mornings. I was listening to Bill Mass talking about Gun and his inconsistencies with the team. He then went on to say that Gun had told his players that he quit on them (retired) for about a 4 hour period, before his wife had to talk him into coming back. I did not hear when/if he said this to his players. Was this before the game, yesterday, when??

Does anyone know anything about this, or is this old news? A little help, please.
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:45 AM   #16
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Cosidering WHB as the source, I'm going to reserve judgement.

I can see Gun telling the team that he feels like resigning, or threatening to resign as a motivational ploy, but I would think that Carl would be the first to know if there was any truth to this.

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Old 09-05-2000, 08:45 AM   #17
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Irregardless whether he came back or not, the harm he did is not repairable. What kind of motivation is this. Gee guys I really suck as a head coach, or gee guys you really suck as a team, and I didn't want to be a part of it, or gee guys, you are killing me. Whatever his thoughts were, he should go, and surely someone in that room, should tell us the truth. The only thing that surprises me, is that no natinal media has picked up on it yet. And this is a story, even if he came back.
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:46 AM   #18
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Jesus, I had really hoped that Maas was BS'ing or that I heard this wrong.

Ladies & Gentlemen, if this is genuinely the case, our team is in serious turmoil. Gun sounds like he is on the brink of a breakdown. If CP does not step in immediately pull Gun out of the lineup, we might witness one of the more brutal season's in our Chiefs history. Gun's inconsistencies and knee-jerking have been curious up until this last blow-up, but now the players are faced with a coach that they can not believe in. How can the players trust and believe in themselves, if the coach wants to throw in the towel after one game.

Carl, please do the right thing for this team and immediately remove Gun from his responsibilities. No President of any corporation would allow his manager to address his workforce like that without losing his job.
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:48 AM   #19
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I hate to say it but I think your right. We need to be gutted. If for nothing more than a new team philosophy. It is just not hacking it with the talent that we have. It is really hard to cut down a tree with a tire iron. I am bummed, yet anxious to see if we will get someone new.
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:51 AM   #20
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But if the team needs to be gutted and the problem is at the top with CP, what good is it going to do?


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Old 09-05-2000, 08:51 AM   #21
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IMO, if the Chiefs have a brutal season, the team will come out of the other end better off than they are now. A top 10 draft pick, and easy schedule, and a clean house.

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Old 09-05-2000, 08:52 AM   #22
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:53 AM   #23
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If we have to promote from inside for the rest of the season, I suggest we promote Stock. Special teams couldn't get any worse w/o him. He would be perfect with all his pissed off faces, ranting, and screaming on the sidelines for the year we will have with a mid season coaching change.
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Old 09-05-2000, 08:58 AM   #24
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OK, Now if Gun wants out, we need to thank him for starting the Rookies and young players. From the start I have thought that this year will be a hard one. But Next year is when the Chiefs will be back. Warfield, Dennis, Wesley, Woods, Atkins, Edwards, Clemons, Hicks and Browning are the makeup of the future Defense in Kansas City. Tait, Riley, Shields, Blackshere, Willis, Alford will be the next all star o-line for the Chiefs. Slymo, Gonzales, Parker, Lockett is the start of a good recieving core. I am an Elvis supporter, but if we do have a coah who wants out, lets get a HB that hcan carry the load, and a QB that the home crowd will not boo.

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Old 09-05-2000, 08:58 AM   #25
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If Stock is ever even considered for a promotion, that's it for me. I couldn't continue wasting time on BBs and watching games if they aren't even serious about winning.

Stock should be sucking prick for beer money right now DAMMIT!! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img]

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Old 09-05-2000, 09:00 AM   #26
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Even if Gun was using this as a motivational ploy, you don't go to the "I was on the verge of quitting on the team before my wife talked me out of it" speech after week 1.

If I were on that team, I would resent any tone of a speech like that after a loss to Indy. Yeah, the offense blew, but the D played hard and only gave up 20 points. Before the Elvis INT, we were strongly in the game. Gun looks like a desperate coach right now.

Lamar and Carl, amputate the leg before the cancer spreads to the rest of the body.
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Old 09-05-2000, 09:12 AM   #27
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Chitown,

I agree with everything you said, except for the last sentence. LAMAR ALONE needs to amputate the leg & sever ALL ties to the Schottenheimer era. Carl's success is nothing more than a fond memory at this point.

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Old 09-05-2000, 09:16 AM   #28
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Would you guys knock this crap about amputation off, since I am an amputee [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]. Seriously, the other board is saying that WHB is going to ask him at his ll:45 press conference, does anyone know their internet address, so I can listen.
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Old 09-05-2000, 09:27 AM   #30
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