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Old 02-22-2011, 04:14 PM  
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Avoid ‘misuse of sex’ in marriage, Canadian bishops warn

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Canadian Catholic bishops are cautioning married couples to not get too focused on sexual acts other than intercourse, calling them a potential misuse of sex that ignore God’s intentions.

A pastoral letter released this week by the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops calls on married couples to lead “chaste” lives — not meaning “celibate” but approaching sex with “purity of mind as well as body” and respecting the dignity of the other person.

“That is why the sexual act has to be unitive and procreative and why some kinds of activity are not chaste,” the letter said. “Though pleasure may be present, some acts are a misuse of sex when they fall short of what God intended.”

The letter — most of it is designed to advise young people on why it is important to avoid sexual encounters outside of marriage — was the result of a commission headed by Archbishop Michael Miller of Vancouver.

The passage on married couples does not use language of condemnation nor sin but could leave the impression that sex acts other than intercourse are wrong.

Hille Haker, a professor of moral theology at Loyola University in Chicago, said she is worried that the advice to married couples is a reflection of more conservative sexual attitudes that pre-date the reforms of Vatican II.

“Before the Second Vatican Council [in the early 1960s] sexual ethics would deal with all the sex acts that are possible,” Ms. Haker said. “They would be busy describing all the different sexual arousals just in order to say this has nothing to do with what we understand to be a permitted sexual life within marriage. It seems to me this passage from the Canadian bishops goes back to that time.”

Vatican II changed the notion of “physical materialized sexual ethics” with an emphasis on love, she added. And once love was seen as the prime function of sex in marriage there was no need “to go into sexual details.”

The pastoral letter quotes John Paul II, who promoted the idea that married people must not objectify their spouses nor use them for personal gratification and that sex within marriage had to be totally self-giving.

“Only the chaste man and the chaste woman are capable of true love,” the late pope said.

The pastoral letter also said that married couples should not be fooled by the how the “media and Hollywood” turn sexual intercourse into simple “recreation or physical gratification.”

“Any physical pleasure should lead toward the ultimate expression of love between a husband and wife, the total self-giving of one person to another,” the letter said.

Other Catholic experts on sexual ethics say the letter fits exactly with the teachings on sex since Vatican II.

The Church is not saying not to do this or that but it is saying that the total of sex should be with the idea of being open to creating new life, said Moira McQueen, a Catholic bioethicist and theologian in Toronto.

Vatican II put an equal emphasis on the unitive and procreative aspects of sex, she added.

“The letter is reminding Catholics that both aspects are important,” she said.
She said the bishops’ letter does not say people cannot enjoy sexual activity outside of intercourse, but that any act ultimately should lead to intercourse.

Ms. McQueen said it was important the bishops put out the letter because its message runs completely opposite to how society sees sexual activity.

“The focus on society is that sex is purely for fun and recreation. There’s nothing wrong with that from the Catholic view as long at it becomes procreative.

“The bishops are reminding Catholics that there is an ideal that should be aimed for, they are setting a standard.”
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:17 PM   #2
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:20 PM   #3
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That's been the position of the RCC for a very long time. It's their business. People are free to leave if to hard a gig to fulfill.

I might add, that it was the RCC that got affinity or conjugal love into marriages before which were primarily economic unions only.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:45 PM   #4
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She said the bishops’ letter does not say people cannot enjoy sexual activity outside of intercourse, but that any act ultimately should lead to intercourse.
We're not saying don't do it..... but you should feel very guilty about it....
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:46 PM   #5
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I think that's because sex is supposed to be about procreation.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:48 PM   #6
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I think that's because sex is supposed to be about procreation.
Then God should have made BJs hurt. Well, all the time.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:49 PM   #7
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I think that's because sex is supposed to be about procreation.
Only according to these idiots.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:49 PM   #8
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So can the clergy still have sex with young boys? Is that chaste?
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:55 PM   #9
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Only according to these idiots.
Well of course, that's why it's called a religion. Live and let live.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:56 PM   #10
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Then God should have made BJs hurt. Well, all the time.
You'll have to talk to God about that.
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:25 PM   #12
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Might as well just say "NO BLOWJOBS!"

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/01...9-in-marriage/
I don't think you need to worry if you want, continue giving bj's.
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I don't think you need to worry if you want, continue giving bj's.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:43 PM   #14
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I don't think you need to worry if you want, continue giving bj's.

He walked right into that one.


Good work bringing it home.
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