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Old 11-07-2012, 08:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 10-28-2016, 03:19 PM   #406
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Old 10-28-2016, 03:26 PM   #407
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Thanks for proving my point.
mmhmm. criticizing violent criminals that want to decriminalize crime is the same as spewing hate. yep, you got me.

seriously, watch a video of a BLM protest some time. black people in attendance get killed and police are nowhere near them.



BLM protester stands in the road. protester gets hit by a black driver. other BLM protesters start shooting at the car. this is 100% black on black crime
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Old 10-28-2016, 03:40 PM   #408
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mmhmm. criticizing violent criminals that want to decriminalize crime is the same as spewing hate. yep, you got me.

seriously, watch a video of a BLM protest some time. black people in attendance get killed and police are nowhere near them.



BLM protester stands in the road. protester gets hit by a black driver. other BLM protesters start shooting at the car. this is 100% black on black crime
Not my point at all. Im well aware there is a lot of criminal activity around the BLM movement.

My point is that certain groups of people like to focus on that element and dismiss a legitimate complaint because of some rotten apples. For every BLM thug, there's an educated man with a legitimate concern.

BLM is a mixed bag of both good and bad. I take issue with the fact that certain people are unable to distinguish the two.

I understand that the message gets lost, and people stop caring when these bad actors soak up all the attention. But the original message is still a positive one, and one that should be heard.

Don't dismiss the original message because of some idiots. But that doesn't happen. Instead of listening to the initial concern, we go "Ah oooh they're all thugs. This is a terrorist group" blah blah.

That's what i mean when i say conservatives rarely take their side with these sort of things. Instead, they focus on the bad apples and form their opinion soley on that.
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Old 10-28-2016, 03:44 PM   #409
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For every BLM thug, there's an educated man with a legitimate concern.
for every BLM thug, there is a black man that has been spoon fed Marxist gobbledygook in social sciences.
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Not my point at all. Im well aware there is a lot of criminal activity around the BLM movement.

My point is that certain groups of people like to focus on that element and dismiss a legitimate complaint because of some rotten apples. For every BLM thug, there's an educated man with a legitimate concern.

BLM is a mixed bag of both good and bad. I take issue with the fact that certain people are unable to distinguish the two.

I understand that the message gets lost, and people stop caring when these bad actors soak up all the attention. But the original message is still a positive one, and one that should be heard.

Don't dismiss the original message because of some idiots.
Who were the good actors?

Here's a poem from a head of Black Lives matter in Toronto:



This group, by the way, protested and called Canada racist after a black man who was attacking police with a hammer was shot and killed.

These people (as in, the leaders of most BLM movements) are playing on your white guilt. There is very much a lack of good actors in the movement. When you find some (like here in Wichita) they are immediately disavowed by other BLM chapters. I actually do think police are often reckless and do think it's an issue, but framing it as they have is dishonest at best.
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Who were the good actors?

Here's a poem from a head of Black Lives matter in Toronto:



This group, by the way, protested and called Canada racist after a black man who was attacking police with a hammer was shot and killed.

These people (as in, the leaders of most BLM movements) are playing on your white guilt. There is very much a lack of good actors in the movement. When you find some (like here in Wichita) they are immediately disavowed by other BLM chapters. I actually do think police are often reckless and do think it's an issue, but framing it as they have is dishonest at best.
exactly. I thought the black community and LEO community in Wichita did Kansas and America proud when they had their get together. and I dont consider them a part of the official Soros funded BLM group. BLM agrees with me on that single point.
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For every BLM thug, there's an educated man with a legitimate concern


BTW detoxing, you mis-gendered about 1/4 of the BLM movement. check your white privilege
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Who were the good actors?

Here's a poem from a head of Black Lives matter in Toronto:



This group, by the way, protested and called Canada racist after a black man who was attacking police with a hammer was shot and killed.

These people (as in, the leaders of most BLM movements) are playing on your white guilt. There is very much a lack of good actors in the movement. When you find some (like here in Wichita) they are immediately disavowed by other BLM chapters. I actually do think police are often reckless and do think it's an issue, but framing it as they have is dishonest at best.
I don't think there's much difference in our thought process here. I just happen to think there's more good actors than you give credit for.

Just like with anything else, no one pays attention. Only jackasses get attention, really.
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BTW detoxing, you mis-gendered about 1/4 of the BLM movement. check your white privilege
Old stuff that im well aware of. Still doesn't sway my opinion.

The problem with BLM is that anyone can identify as a BLM activist. Including the racists.
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more racism from the left?..you're so desperate now.
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for every BLM thug, there is a black man that has been spoon fed Marxist gobbledygook in social sciences.
dude, you're like the HR King lately.

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Angry White Men!

Any post that begins with horseshit like that, I automatically ignore

It automatically makes the assumption that any and all problems people have with Obama, are based on nothing more than his color, and not his shit policies

TL;DR blow it out your ass, Kotter
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Angry White Men!

Any post that begins with horseshit like that, I automatically ignore

It automatically makes the assumption that any and all problems people have with Obama, are based on nothing more than his color, and not his shit policies

TL;DR blow it out your ass, Kotter
..and the old BS Limbaugh etc. ploy....who even talks about those guys?


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Angry White Men!

Any post that begins with horseshit like that, I automatically ignore

It automatically makes the assumption that any and all problems people have with Obama, are based on nothing more than his color, and not his shit policies

TL;DR blow it out your ass, Kotter
Angry White Men.

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