How many of you Carl bashers have ever had to negotiate for ANYTHING in your life? - Page 4

Luzap · 05-25-2007, 12:24 AM

I'm sorry ~ but many of you neophites have got me in a rage the likes of which only KC Wolfman or KCTitus would remember...

I'd really like to know how many of you arm chair QBs have had to negotiate for anything in your life, let alone do it over and over for a living?

I've got a strong feeling that 80+% of the criticism is comming from people that have have ABSOLUTELY NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO BACK UP THEIR POSITIONS.

Have any of you actually bought a new car at $50 dollars above invoice (factory discounts don't count)?

When you go in for your annual job performance review, do you meekly accept a 3% raise? (3% ~ give me a break ~ yeah, you're winning big !!!).

So go ahead, prove me wrong ~ share YOUR great negotiating triumphs with us (I dare you).
But before you get high and mighty, realize this ~ most of us that DO negotiate for a living get more minutes on our cell phones for less money than YOU spend. We save thousands of dollars on our mortgages and live in better homes than you do. Our children dress better than yours (do you really pay sticker price?). And our retirements aren't in mutual funds (ok, that's another discussion).

You hate Carl, fine ~ show me why I should listen to you ~ punk.

So prove me wrong you Carl Bashers ~ share your great negotiating triumphs with us ~ if you can.

Luz
this is what's known as a thread killer ~ the ones that need to hear this don't have the guts to respond...
(I can't blame them ~ those of you that remember know what I've done in the past.)...

Fairplay · 05-25-2007, 04:46 AM

No one on the board has the right to disagree with Carls decision making.

He is the all seeing and all knowing.

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

You have to be kidding. I'm a complete moron who should be sleeping right now. I don't even respect myself very much.

There are others that respect you less.

Kerberos · 05-25-2007, 05:00 AM

I once negotiated my wife out of the bathroom so I could drop a log. She had to return to get ready for work. She was not pleased.

chagrin · 05-25-2007, 05:07 AM

Wow, this is pretty weird. I don't know this guy at all but he's got to be the most goofy goofball I have ever seen here. Luv made a good comment, all he's doing is belittling people. Judging from his multi level marketing website - he's obviously a Tony Robbins wannabe.
I am glad you are successful sir, but it doesn't really give you any more credibility than anyone else here with a good control of the English language.

We already have experts with semantics here at CP, they reside in the DC forum. Judging from what you've written so far, even they would tear you apart; that would be funny, you'd be stuck in a maze of circular logic and we'de probably not see you again for a few years.

OldTownChief · 05-25-2007, 05:10 AM

I was a purchasing agent for 5 years with York int. Had to change occupations due to the stress of that job.

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 05:17 AM

Outside of my home I don't have to negotiate unless you would consider having to discuss an inappropriate practices or irregular items in the specification details of a project to be negotiating. I develop and program industrial controls so by the time I get the project the sales negotiations are completed.

I do see the bashing of CP comparable to a carpenter that blames the hardware store for providing him bad tools when the house he just built is falling apart.

Carl provides players based on the overall need of the team and desires of the HC. They pick those guys from a pool of people that are judged to be worthy of playing pro ball. Those that judge whether someone is worthy to be drafted aren't all employed by the Chiefs, they are part of all of the NFL teams and their extended scouting network.

I have never understood the bashing, other than he is a very public figure in the Chiefs organization. Now, if he were coaching and calling the plays every game there might be more reason to call him out for the results of the games and the playoffs.

Hootie · 05-25-2007, 05:23 AM

I'm in a madden league that has been running for about three years now...

A lot of fun...we all GM a team and make trades blah blah blah...

Think fantasy...

Well this off-season, I made a trade:

Trade 42
To: Texans ------- Hootie - TJ Houshmandzedeh, Dallas Clark, Clint Ingram, Michael Clayton, rookie picks 14, 24, 74, 1st (Vikings, 2008)
To: Vikings ---------- Pao - Larry Johnson, Jeremy Stevens

Getting a #1 WR, an upgrade TE, a young stud LB, a decent WR, three 1sts and a 3rd for LJ and a POS TE is pretty damn good negotiating skills, if you ask me

**The Bad Guy** · 05-25-2007, 05:24 AM

I used to think Luzap was a good poster. Boy, was I wrong.

Fairplay · 05-25-2007, 05:29 AM

Well~

Does anyone dare cross the line and show your negotiating skills~

Common Punk~ show me your skills~

~SHOW ME YOUR SKILLS I DARE YOU~

I save money on my auto insurance also do you~

~~~~~~~~~~~Lets get it on~~~~~~~~~~~~

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

I'm in a madden league that has been running for about three years now...

A lot of fun...we all GM a team and make trades blah blah blah...

Think fantasy...

Well this off-season, I made a trade:

Trade 42
To: Texans ------- Hootie - TJ Houshmandzedeh, Dallas Clark, Clint Ingram, Michael Clayton, rookie picks 14, 24, 74, 1st (Vikings, 2008)
To: Vikings ---------- Pao - Larry Johnson, Jeremy Stevens

Getting a #1 WR, an upgrade TE, a young stud LB, a decent WR, three 1sts and a 3rd for LJ and a POS TE is pretty damn good negotiating skills, if you ask me

Think fantasy...

Hootie · 05-25-2007, 05:42 AM

who cares? It's fun and competitive.

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I used to think Luzap was a good poster. Boy, was I wrong.

I can understand his angst. A team that we all love and watch every year. Either we are fans or we aren't. The blame game can destroy what you one thought of as your team. Not the franchise as we know it, but it deteriorates the fan base.

Everyone says they bitch here and then are 100% fans when the game starts. I don't think you can turn it on and off like that.

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

who cares? It's fun and competitive.

I don't think the comparison matches up with negotiations on the scale that CP does to gain additions to the team. That one task overshadows anything we could do as negotiators unless we are working on world peace.

Hootie · 05-25-2007, 05:52 AM

I don't even know what's going on...

I think Carl does a good job. I think the majority of the people on this board are ****ing idiots.

Slick32 · 05-25-2007, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't even know what's going on...

I think Carl does a good job. I think the majority of the people on this board are ****ing idiots.

Based on this reply I think you probably have a better grip on things than most.

05-25-2007, 12:24 AM
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	How many of you Carl bashers have ever had to negotiate for ANYTHING in your life? I'm sorry ~ but many of you neophites have got me in a rage the likes of which only KC Wolfman or KCTitus would remember... I'd really like to know how many of you arm chair QBs have had to negotiate for anything in your life, let alone do it over and over for a living? I've got a strong feeling that 80+% of the criticism is comming from people that have have ABSOLUTELY NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO BACK UP THEIR POSITIONS. Have any of you actually bought a new car at $50 dollars above invoice (factory discounts don't count)? When you go in for your annual job performance review, do you meekly accept a 3% raise? (3% ~ give me a break ~ yeah, you're winning big !!!). So go ahead, prove me wrong ~ share YOUR great negotiating triumphs with us (I dare you). But before you get high and mighty, realize this ~ most of us that DO negotiate for a living get more minutes on our cell phones for less money than YOU spend. We save thousands of dollars on our mortgages and live in better homes than you do. Our children dress better than yours (do you really pay sticker price?). And our retirements aren't in mutual funds (ok, that's another discussion). You hate Carl, fine ~ show me why I should listen to you ~ punk. So prove me wrong you Carl Bashers ~ share your great negotiating triumphs with us ~ if you can. Luz this is what's known as a thread killer ~ the ones that need to hear this don't have the guts to respond... (I can't blame them ~ those of you that remember know what I've done in the past.)...
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05-25-2007, 04:46 AM	#46
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	No one on the board has the right to disagree with Carls decision making. He is the all seeing and all knowing.
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05-25-2007, 05:00 AM	#48
Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	I once negotiated my wife out of the bathroom so I could drop a log. She had to return to get ready for work. She was not pleased. __________________ ____________________________________________ She aint a hoe if you don't get laid, and it aint a show if I don't get paid-- Everlast
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05-25-2007, 05:07 AM	#49
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9914905	Wow, this is pretty weird. I don't know this guy at all but he's got to be the most goofy goofball I have ever seen here. Luv made a good comment, all he's doing is belittling people. Judging from his multi level marketing website - he's obviously a Tony Robbins wannabe. I am glad you are successful sir, but it doesn't really give you any more credibility than anyone else here with a good control of the English language. We already have experts with semantics here at CP, they reside in the DC forum. Judging from what you've written so far, even they would tear you apart; that would be funny, you'd be stuck in a maze of circular logic and we'de probably not see you again for a few years.
Posts: 13,394

05-25-2007, 05:10 AM	#50
OldTownChief Bobble Taco Join Date: May 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I was a purchasing agent for 5 years with York int. Had to change occupations due to the stress of that job.
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05-25-2007, 05:17 AM	#51
Slick32 Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KC Casino cash: $10004900	Outside of my home I don't have to negotiate unless you would consider having to discuss an inappropriate practices or irregular items in the specification details of a project to be negotiating. I develop and program industrial controls so by the time I get the project the sales negotiations are completed. I do see the bashing of CP comparable to a carpenter that blames the hardware store for providing him bad tools when the house he just built is falling apart. Carl provides players based on the overall need of the team and desires of the HC. They pick those guys from a pool of people that are judged to be worthy of playing pro ball. Those that judge whether someone is worthy to be drafted aren't all employed by the Chiefs, they are part of all of the NFL teams and their extended scouting network. I have never understood the bashing, other than he is a very public figure in the Chiefs organization. Now, if he were coaching and calling the plays every game there might be more reason to call him out for the results of the games and the playoffs.
Posts: 643

05-25-2007, 05:23 AM	#52
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm in a madden league that has been running for about three years now... A lot of fun...we all GM a team and make trades blah blah blah... Think fantasy... Well this off-season, I made a trade: Trade 42 To: Texans ------- Hootie - TJ Houshmandzedeh, Dallas Clark, Clint Ingram, Michael Clayton, rookie picks 14, 24, 74, 1st (Vikings, 2008) To: Vikings ---------- Pao - Larry Johnson, Jeremy Stevens Getting a #1 WR, an upgrade TE, a young stud LB, a decent WR, three 1sts and a 3rd for LJ and a POS TE is pretty damn good negotiating skills, if you ask me
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05-25-2007, 05:24 AM	#53
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9373645	I used to think Luzap was a good poster. Boy, was I wrong. __________________
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05-25-2007, 05:29 AM	#54
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	Well~ Does anyone dare cross the line and show your negotiating skills~ Common Punk~ show me your skills~ ~SHOW ME YOUR SKILLS I DARE YOU~ I save money on my auto insurance also do you~ ~~~~~~~~~~~Lets get it on~~~~~~~~~~~~
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05-25-2007, 05:42 AM	#56
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	who cares? It's fun and competitive.
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05-25-2007, 05:52 AM	#59
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't even know what's going on... I think Carl does a good job. I think the majority of the people on this board are ****ing idiots.
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