Royals Your Thoughts on the Royals....

**Gonzo** · 08-06-2008, 02:47 PM

I think they have played inspired but inconsistent baseball this year. It seems as though they are very close to turning a corner though and may actually finish with a decent record this year.

Your thoughts?

Silock · 08-06-2008, 02:49 PM

Very close. Need some pitching help and a couple of more consistent batters to get into the playoffs still.

Deberg_1990 · 08-06-2008, 02:50 PM

They need Gordon and Butler to continue to develop.

They need a 1st Baseman and another corner outfielder who can rake.

keg in kc · 08-06-2008, 02:52 PM

Below .500, but this isn't "as usual". This is the first step towards something better.

plbrdude · 08-06-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Below .500, but this isn't "as usual". This is the first step towards something better.

that was my thought too. as usual would be 100+ losses. i'm thinkin this team is close to turning the corner. 2 more yr of progress and the could be pushin for the play-offs.

Demonpenz · 08-06-2008, 02:54 PM

we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

Silock · 08-06-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

I don't think we need 3 new starters. Bannister is off-form. He needs to stay consistent, but I don't know if he can. I think we really only need 1 more starting pitcher. Davies has got to go. Of course, I'm speaking only in terms of making the playoffs.

If we get everything you're advocating, we're World Series caliber. I just don't see that happening by next season. Maybe in 3.

DJ's left nut · 08-06-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

Wow, that's pretty much crazy.

Greinke can be a #2. The kid has an ERA below 4, he has dynamite stuff and is still only 24. There's not a team in baseball with a #3 that good, let alone a 4. TB may pull that off, that's it.

Meche a #3. He's a good pitcher, has been a great pitcher for 2 months now. He's occasionally lights out, but not consistent enough to be a true top of the rotation guy. He's the definition of a #3 starter.

Bannister a #5. Innings, keeps you in most games. He's a born back of the rotation starter.

You guys need a #1 and a #4. The 4 should be an innings eater that can give you league average performance; A Jeff Suppan-type.

That said, the Royals are still screwed until they get a new hitting coach. They've wasted 2 seasons of development on both Gordon and Butler. Shealy's busted, Teahan's regressed and Aviles will do the same if they don't get someone else in there soon.

Nightfyre · 08-06-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wow, that's pretty much crazy.

Greinke can be a #2. The kid has an ERA below 4, he has dynamite stuff and is still only 24. There's not a team in baseball with a #3 that good, let alone a 4. TB may pull that off, that's it.

Meche a #3. He's a good pitcher, has been a great pitcher for 2 months now. He's occasionally lights out, but not consistent enough to be a true top of the rotation guy. He's the definition of a #3 starter.

Bannister a #5. Innings, keeps you in most games. He's a born back of the rotation starter.

You guys need a #1 and a #4. The 4 should be an innings eater that can give you league average performance; A Jeff Suppan-type.

I agree with most of this. I think Greinke is a #2 now with #1 future. Meche I think is a servicable 3 or 4 when hes not playing well, and when he's hot hes a servicable 2.

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That said, the Royals are still screwed until they get a new hitting coach. They've wasted 2 seasons of development on both Gordon and Butler. Shealy's busted, Teahan's regressed and Aviles will do the same if they don't get someone else in there soon.

I do agree with this, however. We have seen a decline in our hitters the longer they stay in the majors. Whoever is handling it down in AAA seems to have a magic touch though. They brought up Aviles, Butler came back a new man and they are consistently developing strong hitters.

**The Franchise** · 08-06-2008, 02:55 PM

They suck.

**petegz28** · 08-06-2008, 02:56 PM

We are on pace to win 75-77 games right now. That is a notable improvment if that holds out.

Nightfyre · 08-06-2008, 03:01 PM

this year we will miss the playoffs. However, if we get Teixeira, Gordon comes around, pick up Sabathia or have one of our young gun pitchers come around, I think we make the playoffs next year.

**DeezNutz** · 08-06-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

this year we will miss the playoffs. However, if we get Teixeira, Gordon comes around, pick up Sabathia or have one of our young gun pitchers come around, I think we make the playoffs next year.

You should dream bigger. These small wishes are depressing.

Teixeira and Sabathia, huh?

Hey, I'd love this. In fact, I'd have to install an intermittent windshield wiper on my television to clean the love juice off the screen on opening day.

Nightfyre · 08-06-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You should dream bigger. These small wishes are depressing.

Teixeira and Sabathia, huh?

Hey, I'd love this. In fact, I'd have to install an intermittent windshield wiper on my television to clean the love juice off the screen on opening day.

Yea. Dream big. On the other hand one of our other SP could come around. We need Teix, if he comes available, tho. If he is available and we don't land him I will call this offseason a failure barring the snag of both Dunn and Sabathia.

Sure-Oz · 08-06-2008, 03:02 PM

we need another power bat in the lineup. Gordon and Butler need to continue to develop, they are a huge key, if both pan out to be above avg players that'd jump start us a ton.

Pitching is pretty solid in the pen and we could probably use another starter.

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08-06-2008, 02:47 PM	Topic Starter
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08-06-2008, 02:49 PM	#2
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Very close. Need some pitching help and a couple of more consistent batters to get into the playoffs still.
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08-06-2008, 03:01 PM	#12
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3678849	this year we will miss the playoffs. However, if we get Teixeira, Gordon comes around, pick up Sabathia or have one of our young gun pitchers come around, I think we make the playoffs next year.
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