If Obama wins... will the "the man" excuses stop? - Page 2

wutamess · 11:26 PM

If Obama wins the White House in '08, will minorities stop using "the man is holding them down" as an excuse?

Wondering if it will give minorities (or the country) in general a paradigm shift. Will it actually break down racial tensions for the country?

MadMax · 01-07-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

Won't change a thing. Raising the idea of "the man" keeping people down is big business for some.

The " man " still holding me back...

I coulda been a contender.

Truth be told , I F'D up myself with no help from da man... It's a myth.

**BigRedChief** · 01-07-2008, 11:43 PM

Obama will be our next president. And hopefully certain parts of the country will get over it and realize its a new day in the good ole U.S.A.

Micjones · 01-07-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

I know it wont end it all but will the excuses tone down? or go away a little bit?

It's difficult to say, but...

To cease being vigilant simply because Obama may become our next President would be a tragedy.

Eleazar · 01-07-2008, 11:45 PM

I'm not a supporter of his, but I think it's a great thing that a state like Iowa, that is what, 98% white, showed that they would choose a black man for president.

I think it's a good step. I hope we can all look forward to a day where when we think about people, we don't even think about their race, a day where race is as unimportant to perception as your hair color or eye color or something. There's still a long way to go, but it's a nice milestone in our country's history.

teedubya · 01-07-2008, 11:46 PM

I think Obama seems like a great guy. Most politicians suck... I haven't found anything linking him to Bilderberg, Trilateral, Skull Bones, or CFR yet... so I doubt he wins.

Micjones · 01-07-2008, 11:47 PM

That will be a glorious day, but until we acknowledge the problems staring us in the face we'll get no closer to it.

Apathy and ignorance don't lead the way there...

wutamess · 01-07-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

I think Obama seems like a great guy. Most politicians suck... I haven't found anything linking him to Bilderberg, Trilateral, Skull Bones, or CFR yet... so I doubt he wins.

I was thinking about that too.
But somehow I think he wins.

irishjayhawk · 01-07-2008, 11:48 PM

Didn't the "black leaders" say he wasn't "black enough"? I thought that's what they said.

It is a good step in the right direction.

**BigRedChief** · 01-07-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

It's difficult to say, but...

To cease being vigilant simply because Obama may become our next President would be a tragedy.

Comeon Micjones enjoy the moment. White America is voting for a black man to lead them. They are obviously judging him based on the content of his message and judgement. They don't give a chit about the color of his skin. It's a major step forward.

**BigRedChief** · 01-07-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

I was thinking about that too.
But somehow I think he wins.

There is going to be backlash against the Republicans and Bush. Obama is going to win.

wutamess · 01-07-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

There is going to be backlash against the Republicans and Bush. Obama is going to win.

Freagin Huckabee has "God" on his side though... That's what got Bush his support.

Micjones · 01-07-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

Didn't the "black leaders" say he wasn't "black enough"? I thought that's what they said.

Actually no.

A very White Peter Beinart did, but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

greg63 · 01-07-2008, 11:52 PM

Isn't there a DC forum for this kind of thing?

el borracho · 01-07-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

If Obama wins the White House in '08, will minorities stop using "the man is holding them down" as an excuse?

I've really only ever heard one minority group use that phrase and that group goes out of their way to be different- different way of speaking, different way of dressing, etc.

I know I have posted this before but... most immigrants lose their accents completely by the third generation while one minority group has developed and maintained a style of speech, different from all other Americans; why is this?

Based on what I think the answer is, I would say that 4 or 8 years of Obama in the White House will change nothing among that group.

Micjones · 01-07-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Comeon Micjones enjoy the moment. White America is voting for a black man to lead them. They are obviously judging him based on the content of his message and judgement. They don't give a chit about the color of his skin. It's a major step forward.

It's progress, but I'm not ready to forget about everything else going on in the world.

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