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Old 08-10-2011, 05:58 PM  
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Change You Can Believe In: Obama Approval Down 18 Pts In 10 Weeks

Touch couple of months since Osama bought the farm...

Average of all the polls over at RCP now who him upside down by 8 points...
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:23 PM   #2
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You know what's even more sad? Not a single Republican, currently declared, would beat him in 2012.

And it wouldn't be very close even.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:28 PM   #3
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You know what's even more sad? Not a single Republican, currently declared, would beat him in 2012.

And it wouldn't be very close even.
meh, I have seen polls saying they would and they won't. We will see once someone gets the nomination and how the economy is come election time.

That being said, Obama is lower now than Bush ever was in his first term.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:33 PM   #4
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That being said, Obama is lower now than Bush ever was in his first term.
Wow. National "unity" following 9/11 had nothing to do with that, right? That said, the tea party is dangerously close to bringing about some "unity" that could be dangerous to them in 2012. Heh.

You and many others better get used to a second term for Obama, barring something completely out-of-the-blue....or a real game changer. And while 15 months in politics is an eternity, neither of those are "likely" at this point.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:35 PM   #5
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Wow. National "unity" following 9/11 had nothing to do with that, right? That said, the tea party is dangerously close to bringing about some "unity" that could be dangerous to them in 2012. Heh.

You and many others better get used to a second term for Obama, barring something completely out-of-the-blue....or a real game changer. And while 15 months in politics is an eternity, neither of those are "likely" at this point.
Are you saying we had get used to kissing the kings ring?
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:36 PM   #6
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Wow. National "unity" following 9/11 had nothing to do with that, right? That said, the tea party is dangerously close to bringing about some "unity" that could be dangerous to them in 2012. Heh.

You and many others better get used to a second term for Obama, barring something completely out-of-the-blue....or a real game changer. And while 15 months in politics is an eternity, neither of those are "likely" at this point.
Spare me the excuses, Kotter. It is what it is.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:37 PM   #7
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Spare me the excuses, Kotter. It is what it is.
Uh-huh. 2012 elections will be what they will be too. Heh.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:42 PM   #8
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Uh-huh. 2012 elections will be what they will be too. Heh.
Dude, you're kinda not right in the head.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:54 PM   #9
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Wow. National "unity" following 9/11 had nothing to do with that, right? That said, the tea party is dangerously close to bringing about some "unity" that could be dangerous to them in 2012. Heh.

You and many others better get used to a second term for Obama, barring something completely out-of-the-blue....or a real game changer. And while 15 months in politics is an eternity, neither of those are "likely" at this point.
They really learned a lesson in Wisconsin, right?
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:14 PM   #10
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Kotter, if that poll is correct about most wanting tax increases on the rich and deep spending cuts too...it sounds to me most are fed up with both parties.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:29 PM   #11
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They really learned a lesson in Wisconsin, right?
Just watch. They keep diggin' the hole deeper and deeper; they are digging their own graves.

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Kotter, if that poll is correct about most wanting tax increases on the rich and deep spending cuts too...it sounds to me most are fed up with both parties.
A clear majority want major deep cuts and serious reforms. Most, me included, expect modest tax increases for everyone--but especially for those who've had a free ride at the top over the last 15 years or so. However, the "tea party" is fighting the tax increases to the death; and it's their hill to die on, it seems.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:42 PM   #12
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A clear majority want major deep cuts and serious reforms. Most, me included, expect modest tax increases for everyone--but especially for those who've had a free ride at the top over the last 15 years or so. However, the "tea party" is fighting the tax increases to the death; and it's their hill to die on, it seems.
I dont follow that, explain....
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A clear majority want major deep cuts and serious reforms. Most, me included, expect modest tax increases for everyone--but especially for those who've had a free ride at the top over the last 15 years or so. However, the "tea party" is fighting the tax increases to the death; and it's their hill to die on, it seems.
Those getting a free-ride are at the bottom.

I don't understand all the concern, or even the blame on the Tea Party ( not saying you on this here) when they are a small minority though.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:47 PM   #14
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Interesting quote from this story....http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...rpc=23&sp=true

The poll found 73 percent of Americans believe the United States is “off on the wrong track,” and just one in five, 21 percent, think the country is headed in the right direction.

And regarding the evil Tea Party....Poll: By 42% To 34% Margin Americans Say Tea Party Can Do Better Job Than Congress…

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...an_in_congress
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:53 PM   #15
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Congress has a 14% approval rating. I'm just curious who the 14% are.
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