Pioli Deserves Props

[Hoover]

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

[O.city]

If Berry and Charles don't go down last year, we win a playoff game.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Haley is no longer here, we just drafted Midget 2.0 and a RB.

Yeah, debatable.

Because Haley is not here does not mean he was the biggest issue. You want to bash Pioli and Haley? Both are to blame for everything?

DMC is still on the team bud, he also cost you several bets last year. Will he ever be a star? I doubt it, was he a colossal ridiculous bust? I don't see it yet, its definitely not fact at this point and I can tell you, I don't like him.

Even if you get DMC 100% right, hell even if you were right on Haley and DMC, anyone who spews as much shit as you is going to be right on occasion.

Your LJ man crush that went on 2 years too long and your wishy washy back and forth BS (See "Matt Cassel Can't Do It Alone") negates most anything you blindly get half ass correct.

[crazycoffey]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/misc....osted&t=259055

the reerun is strong in this thread

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Berry and Charles don't go down last year, we win a playoff game.

2010 says hello.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Because Haley is not here does not mean he was the biggest issue. You want to bash Pioli and Haley? Both are to blame for everything?

DMC is still on the team bud, he also cost you several bets last year. Will he ever be a star? I doubt it, was he a colossal ridiculous bust? I don't see it yet, its definitely not fact at this point and I can tell you, I don't like him.

Even if you get DMC 100% right, hell even if you were right on Haley and DMC, anyone who spews as much shit as you is going to be right on occasion.

Your LJ man crush that went on 2 years too long and your wishy washy back and forth BS (See "Matt Cassel Can't Do It Alone") negates most anything you blindly get half ass correct.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

2010 says hello.

By that logic, we never will win a playoff game.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

By that logic, we never will win a playoff game.

Chiefsplanet says hello

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

I was right that he was going to be fired.

I was right that he sucked cock.

Until he gets another HC gig and succeeds, I'm ****ing right.

This team is a lot better because he was here. It amazes me how critics will downplay the improvement a lot of players made under his watch. Maybe he wasn't the best long-term fit for a coach. But I'm very glad he was the coach for the time he was here.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

All you ever do is err on the side of homer.

Really?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=212382

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

By that logic, we never will win a playoff game.

Wasn't saying that at all.

Simply making a point that we had the services of those two players in 2010, and we were ass raped in our own building.

Curious as to what he thinks changed in one offseason that makes him think we would have won a playoff game.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

If we would have won one more game last year. We would have beaten Pitt at Arrowhead. We could have won several games last year. We are not that far away due to the quality of the division.

I know and like BRC in "real life", but this quote sums up the fanbase.

We're not that far away due to the quality of the division.

Great, we win a weak division.

Then what?

Continue to settle for mediocrity, according to most.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wasn't saying that at all.

Simply making a point that we had the services of those two players in 2010, and we were ass raped in our own building.

Curious as to what he thinks changed in one offseason that makes him think we would have won a playoff game.



I know and like BRC in "real life", but this quote sums up the fanbase.

We're not that far away due to the quality of the division.

Great, we win a weak division.

Then what?

Continue to settle for mediocrity, according to most.

Well, I think the more appropriate point is that Kyle Orton showed us that with a better QB, we can be very competitive. Which is saying a lot, because a team can do a lot better than Kyle Orton. With a legit QB, we could be Super Bowl contenders. That's good and very unfortunate at the same time.

[BigMeatballDave]

Pioli is one horrible decision from being a very good GM.

Unfortunately, he failed on the most important position.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think the mayocks and kipers of the world who grade these guys throw peoples views of drafts off. Obviously, what Mayock and Kiper had people graded as, scouts didn't agree on some guys.

I don't think the FOs give a shit what Mayock and Kiper think. But I do think the FOs use these guys for poker play though with other teams that's for sure.

In all actuality, I think the FO's of each team actually sit back and laugh at these wannabes most of the time and actually conduct and observe like professors in a lab setting doing experiments with mice, saying to themselves "watch what happens to the "sports media mice" when we take this player!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Dave

Pioli is one horrible decision from being a very good GM.

Unfortunately, he failed on the most important position.

Agreed.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Well, I think the more appropriate point is that Kyle Orton showed us that with a better QB, we can be very competitive. Which is saying a lot, because a team can do a lot better than Kyle Orton. With a legit QB, we could be Super Bowl contenders. That's good and very unfortunate at the same time.

Come on now, common sense is always clouded when the ego is more important(a la Pioli trying to will Cassel to good QB play)