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Old 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM  
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(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:21 PM   #2746
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5 wins? I wouldn't go that far.
He's 9th among MLB starters in wins since 2011 (13.3 fWAR over that time). I rounded up a bit, but he's a very good pitcher. One of the better ones in baseball.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:28 PM   #2747
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Holy smokes, that trade is colossally stupid. It is hard to overestimate the damage this is going to do to the Tigers in 2014. This trade is approaching Jermaine Dye-bad.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:29 PM   #2748
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:31 PM   #2749
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@ChrisCotillo: Possible package: Steve Lombardozzi, Robbie Ray and Ian Krol to #Tigers for Fister. #Nationals

If true, then Dombrowski got WORKED.

Nationals confirm the deal, what a steal for them.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:35 PM   #2750
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I thought Dombrowski was smarter than this. That trade is flat-out stunning.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:37 PM   #2751
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The Royals chances of making the playoffs just went up more tonight than they likely will all offseason. What a colossally stupid deal for Detroit. The Tigers just took a 5 win hit seemingly just to make a 7M salary dump.
I'm not sure about 5 wins, but the Royals chances are definitely looking better in the AL Central tonight.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:44 PM   #2752
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Is Detroit making those strange moves in order to free up $ for Cano? I mean, it makes no sense to trade away a major asset for that kind of a terrible haul....

But one has to wonder....
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:45 PM   #2753
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@ChrisCotillo: Possible package: Steve Lombardozzi, Robbie Ray and Ian Krol to #Tigers for Fister. #Nationals

If true, then Dombrowski got WORKED.

Nationals confirm the deal, what a steal for them.
Lombardozzi is not a bad UTIL guy, but he's still a UTIL guy.

Krol looks like a middling lefthanded reliever. Ray is an OK relief prospect who might be a weapon eventually.

I'm not a big Fister fan, but that's a amazingly stupid trade. Especially since they probably could have gotten the same for Rick Porcello, who is inferior to Fister.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:45 PM   #2754
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I'll reserve judgement until I see what Detroit does the rest of the off-season. They could end up signing Santana or something with all the money they've been dumping. But things are lining up nicely right now for the Royals to make a real run for the division.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:51 PM   #2756
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But they could be dumping all of it to do both...then how would you feel?
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But they could be dumping all of it to do both...then how would you feel?
I honestly can't see them outbidding NY's offer....
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@matthewbmowery: DD: We feel our starting depth at this time allowed us to make the deal. #Tigers

@matthewbmowery: DD: We think Robbie Ray gives us a guy sitting at Triple-A, waiting to help us, if need be. #Tigers

@matthewbmowery: DD: You're always prepared that, when you trade the known for the unknown, people don't like it. #Tigers

@matthewbmowery: DD: Mentions Ray's potential again. Calls Lombardozzi one of the best utility guys in the league. #Tigers

@matthewbmowery: DD: We thought, for us, it was a move that made sense. It gives us some flexibility to do some other things we wanted to do. #Tigers
Still don't get it. It might actually be better to admit you are dumping payroll to sign someone else, because the alternative is to think you are pretty stupid.

Actually, that last tweet might be sort of hinting at that, if "flexibility" = $$$. Even so, I don't think that they can buy the wins they lost with the few million they are saving, much less buy even more wins.
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I still think Illich is dumping to sell the team.

The guy just doesn't have enough time left on this earth for straight salary dumps to make sense. He could lose $50 million/yr and still be a billionaire when he dies.
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I still think Illich is dumping to sell the team.

The guy just doesn't have enough time left on this earth for straight salary dumps to make sense. He could lose $50 million/yr and still be a billionaire when he dies.
Even though they were so close to winning the World Series? I don't know man, they were close, and if they kept Fielder and the same guys, add some quality players by depth, they could make a good run for it in the 2014 season.
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