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Old 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM  
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(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository

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Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #811
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Beating a dead horse, but if we want any hope in 2014 or beyond, Ned absolutely needs to be shown the door.
That absolutely will not happen. Zip, zero, nada, no chance whatsoever. Ned will be given a new contract soon unless he wants to retire.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:21 PM   #812
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That absolutely will not happen. Zip, zero, nada, no chance whatsoever. Ned will be given a new contract soon unless he wants to retire.
This is likely true, though he has yet to be extended for next season. I'm personally hoping for a "promotion" to a front office position.

We will never be a true contender with Ned leading the charge.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:27 PM   #813
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This is likely true, though he has yet to be extended for next season. I'm personally hoping for a "promotion" to a front office position.

We will never be a true contender with Ned leading the charge.
I don't really agree, because in my view the manager has very little relevance, especially in the American League. If you give a terrific team to an idiot, they will contend for the championship, and if you give this year's Astros to a great manager, they will be terrible.

The only thing I think a manager can do is two bad things and zero good things: he can hurt your pitchers, and he can bunt too much. If the Royals manager does neither, then he's pretty much a zero and I don't really care about him.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:32 PM   #814
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I don't really agree, because in my view the manager has very little relevance, especially in the American League. If you give a terrific team to an idiot, they will contend for the championship, and if you give this year's Astros to a great manager, they will be terrible.

The only thing I think a manager can do is two bad things and zero good things: he can hurt your pitchers, and he can bunt too much. If the Royals manager does neither, then he's pretty much a zero and I don't really care about him.
So you would disagree that Francona is the reason the Indians have been successful all season?
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #815
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I don't really agree, because in my view the manager has very little relevance, especially in the American League. If you give a terrific team to an idiot, they will contend for the championship, and if you give this year's Astros to a great manager, they will be terrible.

The only thing I think a manager can do is two bad things and zero good things: he can hurt your pitchers, and he can bunt too much. If the Royals manager does neither, then he's pretty much a zero and I don't really care about him.
I disagree with this assessment. I do not believe the Indians have the season they have had without Francona, and conversely, I feel we could be 3-5 games better in the standings with someone remotely competent leading the Royals. 3-5 games may seem small, but at this point in the season, it can be difference between someone who sitting home in October and a World Series Champion.

Ned has no feel for the game, as evidenced by his completely inane decision to send Guthrie out for the eighth today. Ned overmanages the pen, leads with no consistency, and worst have all, has shown no evidence that he can learn from his mistakes.

Would anyone be shedding tears if the Royals pulled a Milwaukee and let go of Ned right now? I certainly wouldn't be.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:56 PM   #816
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Could we do better than Yost/Moore? Probably, but this season all comes down to playing <.250 baseball in May. I remain opimistic thinking we have a good young team that is maturing into a contender for 2014.

Moore needs to get a slugger in the offseason.
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Could we do better than Yost/Moore? Probably, but this season all comes down to playing <.250 baseball in May. I remain opimistic thinking we have a good young team that is maturing into a contender for 2014.

Moore needs to get a slugger in the offseason.
More and more I grow convinced that retaining Santana might come before finding a batter.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:27 PM   #818
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Why was guthrie allowed to go out in the eighth after giving up TWELVE ****ing hits in SEVEN innings?
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:58 PM   #821
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Why was guthrie allowed to go out in the eighth after giving up TWELVE ****ing hits in SEVEN innings?
Because our manager is a fucking idiot.
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Why was guthrie allowed to go out in the eighth after giving up TWELVE ****ing hits in SEVEN innings?
No joke: Ned wanted to get the win for Guthrie.
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I will never not hate Ned Yost for this. You sabotage your team's chances to win a crucial, crucial game because you care about a sentimental pitching stat? **** you, Ned.
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No joke: Ned wanted to get the win for Guthrie.
HOW ABOUT GETTING YOUR TEAM THE WIN YOU GIANT PIECE OF shit!?
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