Chiefs Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston - Page 57

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08:07 PM

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Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston, per league source.

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

@nfldraftscout there are some serious injury concerns

Looks like he's hurt

mr. tegu · 03-07-2013, 09:07 AM

There is no way they move Albert to RT or draft a RT a 1.1. Just no way.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-07-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

THis is a unique situation for KC. NE wasn't in the top ten, and perhaps they didn't have an offensive lineman that was a probowler that was on up for FA at the same time as a solid LT was coming out, and there were good FA tackles available. You can't compare the two.

I'm simply stating a fact. That fact is this: If you have a LT that is 28 yo with a history of a back injury, and another team will give you a mid first round pick for him, and you have the first pick in the draft, with a very solid young LT coming into the draft, and you can get him at half the cost of the guy you currently have, you do it. Why wouldn't you?

That doesn't sound like fact - it sounds like an opinionated viewpoint.

tooge · 03-07-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

That doesn't sound like fact - it sounds like an opinionated viewpoint.

so you disagree? If so, which part doesn't make sense?

royr17 · 03-07-2013, 09:10 AM

You dont waste a 1st round pick on a RT, you plug Stephenson at RT and find a player in the 3rd round that can be used as a swing tackle.

MarylandChiefsFan · 03-07-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

There is no way they move Albert to RT or draft a RT a 1.1. Just no way.

I tend to agree. Albert is trade bait now and a RT probably in FA

Chiefnj2 · 03-07-2013, 09:14 AM

Dorsey's interview on kccchiefs about the team addressing its free agents, doesn't give the impression that signing Albert was very important. It seemed like putting the tag on Albert was a placeholder.

tooge · 03-07-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MarylandChiefsFan

I tend to agree. Albert is trade bait now and a RT probably in FA

You've already got your RT on the roster in Allen or Stevenson. You get a guard in free agency or mid rounds of the draft, you get your LT with the 1.1 pick, and you use the pick you aquire for him on the QBOTF.

mr. tegu · 03-07-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

You've already got your RT on the roster in Allen or Stevenson. You get a guard in free agency or mid rounds of the draft, you get your LT with the 1.1 pick, and you use the pick you aquire for him on the QBOTF.

We already have a proven LT. We can keep him and assure ourselves of getting our choice of QBs and not waiting until the middle of the first to get the leftovers. It just doesn't make sense to me. If your plan is to have a QB and LT, I see no scenario in which it is better to get a leftover QB and an unproven LT instead of keeping your proven LT and taking your pick of the QBs. Screw value.

MarylandChiefsFan · 03-07-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Dorsey's interview on kccchiefs about the team addressing its free agents, doesn't give the impression that signing Albert was very important. It seemed like putting the tag on Albert was a placeholder.

This

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

That doesn't sound like fact - it sounds like an opinionated viewpoint.

Exactly. The fact is that Albert is our best overall offensive lineman. And a LT at that. You don't trade a guy under 30, who's the best lineman you have, at LT no less...

We need a legit WR, CB, and ILB, and RT.

You don't go and create a hole you don't have to and then fill that hole at 1.1

Instead you sign him so you don't have that hole and use that pick on the best value there. To me (if we don't trade down) that's CB...

patteeu · 03-07-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

There is no way they move Albert to RT or draft a RT a 1.1. Just no way.

But they could draft a future LT at 1.1 and play him at RT for a year. That's not necessarily optimal, but it's far from unprecedented.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-07-2013, 09:22 AM

We have spent entirely too many picks on the OL in the previous drafts to dip into that well again this year, especially at tackle.

If the Chiefs were to go after a lineman this year, they should look at a center, and do so in the mid-late rounds. Shift Hudson to guard and have the two second year players battle it out for RT and swing tackle depth.

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If the Chiefs were to go after a lineman this year, they should look at a center, and do so in the mid-late rounds. Shift Hudson to guard and have the two second year players battle it out for RT and swing tackle depth.

I'd like to keep Hudson at C. I think he'll develop into a really good one but I can see the argument to move him.

And BTW, **** Winston and his crybaby drama. I love that we cut him...

Chiefnj2 · 03-07-2013, 09:23 AM

Here is where I think KC stands on Albert (pure speculation).

They weren't close in negotiations (Teicher interview w/ Dorsey). They apparently didn't even negotiate on the final day (Dorsey interview kcchiefs). Getting the punter and Bowe signed was a priority over Albert down the stretch (Dorsey interview kcchiefs).

They tag him and hope that the free agent OT class doesn't break the bank. If those guys don't get the money they think they will, or that Albert is asking for, they can come back to Albert and ask him to lower his demands. If Albert doesn't, they try to trade him and/or draft his replacement at 1.1 and move Albert to RT for one year.

They are going to protect Alex Smith as much as possible.

tooge · 03-07-2013, 09:23 AM

Well, our LT is already bitching about not playing RT, before the chiefs have even drafted anyone at all. That is telling as well. Guess we will have to simply disagree on this.

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7913688	Here is where I think KC stands on Albert (pure speculation). They weren't close in negotiations (Teicher interview w/ Dorsey). They apparently didn't even negotiate on the final day (Dorsey interview kcchiefs). Getting the punter and Bowe signed was a priority over Albert down the stretch (Dorsey interview kcchiefs). They tag him and hope that the free agent OT class doesn't break the bank. If those guys don't get the money they think they will, or that Albert is asking for, they can come back to Albert and ask him to lower his demands. If Albert doesn't, they try to trade him and/or draft his replacement at 1.1 and move Albert to RT for one year. They are going to protect Alex Smith as much as possible. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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