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Old 01-23-2011, 11:58 AM  
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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 09-16-2011, 06:58 PM   #1291
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7.62! 5.56 is for the AR

I've got too much of a backlog of guns to buy....I think my dealer is going to love me in the next few months. I wonder if I can work out a volume discount!

Thanks for the tip, I'll check.
LOL, you reminded me of a Kalashnikov inverview I saw on Discovery. He basically said that the AK-47 was the perfect war rifle and that they AK-74 was the Soviets blindly following the US. I will post the interview when I find it.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:09 PM   #1292
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:12 PM   #1293
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Sorry, AK-74 uses a 5.45mm bullet. My mistake.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:19 PM   #1294
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LOL, you reminded me of a Kalashnikov inverview I saw on Discovery. He basically said that the AK-47 was the perfect war rifle and that they AK-74 was the Soviets blindly following the US. I will post the interview when I find it.
While I understand the sentiment and the punch of the 7.62mm I think for a combat round I'd be more likely to use the 5.56mm too for one simple reasons. In 10KG of weight you get

7.62x51mm 280 rounds
7.62x39mm 360 rounds
5.56x45mm 660 rounds

Nearly 2X the ammo? Yea I'm going 5.56mm While the 7.62 hits harder, it can't hit if you're out of ammo!
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:25 PM   #1295
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:33 PM   #1296
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hahahhaha ya Im hoping the fine is under $500.00 I told the owner what happened later that night but hes in Europe & could not remember what he paid for the glass.
I really peppered the depot with #4 shot, lot of trim & siding needs to be fixed as well
Damn, that's a lot more than I ended up shelling out for my refridgerator mishap. But in any event, I feel your pain.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:17 PM   #1297
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Still haven't been lucky enough to get an AR. My wife is still saying no...until now. She says I can get one at the end of the month.

There's a dealer an hour from me offering the Panther Oracle w/ A3 carry handle and A2 front sights, 2-30 rnd mags and a hard case for $756 tax included. It doesn't have a front mount for a sling though. Which I want a sling.

or

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/61620

I have to call on Monday and see if it comes with mags and a case. This one with insurance is $823.

or

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411537957

This only comes with one mag and no case or carry handle. The carry handle is $30 on amazon but it's got a few mixed reviews mixed in with great reviews. I'd have to buy a case, handle, sling, and mag for it which would bring the total above the oracle but slightly below the other DPMS.

What's a better option? She gave me permission for either of those options.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:19 PM   #1298
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On a side note.

I picked up a 8 gun gun safe today at a garage sale. It's not fire proof but it does lock which is good enough for now. It also came with a pistol safe which was big enough for both pistols, all my .40 ammo and both pistol cases. Bought that baby for $25.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:28 PM   #1299
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My wife is still saying no...until now. She says I can get one at the end of the month.

What's a better option? She gave me permission for either of those options.
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Buying a gun without her permission=no sex.
Buying a gun with her permission=continued sex.

Option #2 sounds better.
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Option #2 sounds better.
Those are your only two "options"?

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Still haven't been lucky enough to get an AR. My wife is still saying no...until now. She says I can get one at the end of the month.

There's a dealer an hour from me offering the Panther Oracle w/ A3 carry handle and A2 front sights, 2-30 rnd mags and a hard case for $756 tax included. It doesn't have a front mount for a sling though. Which I want a sling.

or

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/61620

I have to call on Monday and see if it comes with mags and a case. This one with insurance is $823.

or

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411537957

This only comes with one mag and no case or carry handle. The carry handle is $30 on amazon but it's got a few mixed reviews mixed in with great reviews. I'd have to buy a case, handle, sling, and mag for it which would bring the total above the oracle but slightly below the other DPMS.

What's a better option? She gave me permission for either of those options.
I would have zero use for the A3 handle, especially if you're planning on getting a sling. It will also make any future mountings a pain in the ass. Had I got one, it would now be in the discarded gun junk drawer with several other things I shouldn't have bought.

As for the hard case, my DPMS came with one that was specifically fitted to the rifle. The minute I put a red dot on it the case became useless. If the hard case isn't fitted, that would be fine, but IMO you're better off getting a soft case with magazine slots. Also, keep in mind that you will probably add stuff to it over time, so get a bigger case than you need right now - I initially got a soft case that fit perfectly, but as soon as I added the Magpul ACS stock it was too small.

Also, the magazines that come will the rifle will probably suck. Get Magpuls.
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Another thing to think about - one of the first things you'll probably want to upgrade is the hand guard - if you do so, I suggest getting something with a low profile gas block. That way you can get a longer free float guard and won't have to replace the gas block later. I would not want the one with the tall fixed front sight.
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Yeah, that's the third swing'n dick to get killed this summer around here, by a grizzly. In this case, some out of state dipshit, thought he was shooting a "black bear" wrong!



Dipshit shoots grizzly, grizzly runs off ALL PISSED OFF!


Grizzly runs into dudes buddy and opens up a can of whoop ass on him, until dude is taking dirt nap.

Reminds me of a print I own by Bev Doolittle called "Doubled Back."






(Sorry but, dumb ****) Dude one has to shoot black/ooops grizzly bear, numerous times to kill it,



but to late for his buddy.

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Old 09-17-2011, 04:38 PM   #1305
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Another thing to think about - one of the first things you'll probably want to upgrade is the hand guard - if you do so, I suggest getting something with a low profile gas block. That way you can get a longer free float guard and won't have to replace the gas block later. I would not want the one with the tall fixed front sight.
My wife wants the carry handle. I want to be able to add a sight to it when i take it to the lease. So it's got be removeable or something. I don't plan on doing any major upgrades to it. Besides a sling, scope, better mags.

If you were in my shoes would you go any of those routes? The carry handle is an absolute must as is a sling mount and collapsible stock. Would it be best to get an A2 upper and a scope to the handle? Would that make it easier for coyote hunting/keep my wife satisfied with the handle. Can both of those be zeroed in? Or each time I take off the scope I'd have to residue it and residue the iron target.
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