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Old 05-09-2014, 01:20 PM  
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NFL Team Official: Michael Sam Is ‘Not A Really Good Athlete’

ST. LOUIS (CBS St. Louis) — It could be a very long weekend for Michael Sam.
The openly gay football player from the University of Missouri is hoping an NFL team takes a chance and makes history by drafting him, but some experts believe he might end up being an undrafted free agent.
Scouts told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that they don’t see Sam’s game transitioning to the NFL.
“Most of his production was hustle stuff,” an NFC personnel official told the Journal Sentinel. “There’s production, but he’s short, he’s not a really good athlete and he doesn’t play good against the run.”
He continued: “He’s kind of a one-task pass rusher. Just run up the field. And they swallow him up and kind of push him around.”
One NFC personnel director stated that Sam doesn’t have a position in the league.
“He’s not a linebacker, and he’s really not a defensive end,” the personnel director told the Journal Sentinel. “I’d certainly take him to camp. You’ve got to admire how hard he plays.”
An AFC executive said Sam was “short and slow.” Sam stands at 6 feet 2 inches and weighs 262 pounds.
Despite the potential setbacks, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is hoping to see Sam succeed in the league.
“I want to see Michael Sam get an opportunity to play in the NFL,” Goodell told ESPN Thursday before the first round of the NFL Draft. “We like to say the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play football, they want to see you play. The teams want you. The fans want you. And that’s ultimately what it’s all about.”
Goodell continued: “I have great respect for Michael, his courage, his decision to become public, and I’m optimistic that he’s going to get that opportunity, and hopefully he can play at this level.”
Sam, who was the SEC’s Defensive Player of the Year, will be the first openly active gay player in the league.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:48 PM   #181
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I don't care if he's gay or if anyone is, but I sure don't want to have to see that shit on TV like we did... I was eating at the time too.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:48 PM   #182
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Why are people all up each others asses over this?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:48 PM   #183
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Him being drafted and playing is important for the cultural significance of the milestone, regardless of what Michael Sam thinks.

Some things are bigger than an individual, but an individual becomes an avatar for the event. This is one of those times.

People worrying about Sam kissing his significant other or smushing cake in his face is precisely why it matters. Viewing it as noteworthy is why it needs to be seen and why it is important to discuss.
Does the rams drafting him at a stacked position and with their ties to the university cheapen it some?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:49 PM   #184
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Why is it important? Michael Sam doesn't think so, and doesn't want you to think so. Michael Sam football player got drafted in the 7th round. That's the story.
Dude, while it's not exactly Jackie Robinson, he is a part of an oft discriminated against group of people who has broken down a barrier. We've been hearing plenty of reports from anonymous GMs saying they wouldn't want an openly gay player. That's discrimination on an organizational level. Not to mention the macho, tough guy stereotypes that create their own difficulties. I agree that Sam's story has been co-opted by a controversy hungry media, but to claim this isn't significant news is absurd.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:49 PM   #185
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Why are people all up each others asses over this?
HE'S GAY! where you been?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:49 PM   #186
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are you suggesting that Sam has control of everything else?
He doesn't have to allow people to use his likeness for pro-GLBT fundraisers nor does he have to consent to appear on camera kissing his BF.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:49 PM   #187
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Strange description unless the pun was intended~
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:50 PM   #188
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Dude, while it's not exactly Jackie Robinson, he is a part of an oft discriminated against group of people who has broken down a barrier. We've been hearing plenty of reports from anonymous GMs saying they wouldn't want an openly gay player. That's discrimination on an organizational level. Not to mention the macho, tough guy stereotypes that create their own difficulties. I agree that Sam's story has been co-opted by a controversy hungry media, but to claim this isn't significant news is absurd.
You do realize that gay Defensive players tackle like girls , right!
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:50 PM   #189
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I don't care if he's gay or if anyone is, but I sure don't want to have to see that shit on TV like we did... I was eating at the time too.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:50 PM   #190
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I don't care if he's gay or if anyone is, but I sure don't want to have to see that shit on TV like we did... I was eating at the time too.
Clearly, you do care.
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Him being drafted and playing is important for the cultural significance of the milestone, regardless of what Michael Sam thinks.

Some things are bigger than an individual, but an individual becomes an avatar for the event. This is one of those times.

People worrying about Sam kissing his significant other or smushing cake in his face is precisely why it matters. Viewing it as noteworthy is why it needs to be seen and why it is important to discuss.
So you admit, regardless of his wishes he is relegated to mascot status.

Because what, some things are more important than individual autonomous dignity.
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You guys celebrating this big story about 'a gay' being drafted and kissing his significant other as the most important thing to happen do realize that you're disappointing Michael Sam as much as anyone, don't you?
I don't really see many people "celebrating" in here.

But yes I'm sure Sam and many other gays wish it wasn't a story. I'm sure they would prefer that it didn't matter. But society isn't there yet.
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If that's the only reason why they did it. Do you think that's why it happened?
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Dude, while it's not exactly Jackie Robinson, he is a part of an oft discriminated against group of people who has broken down a barrier. We've been hearing plenty of reports from anonymous GMs saying they wouldn't want an openly gay player. That's discrimination on an organizational level. Not to mention the macho, tough guy stereotypes that create their own difficulties. I agree that Sam's story has been co-opted by a controversy hungry media, but to claim this isn't significant news is absurd.
So a controversy hungry media is more important than Michael Sam?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:52 PM   #195
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But I wish the guy well, hope he does great, people in here being all angry with each other about it is the silliest thing I've seen all day.
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