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Old 03-09-2013, 10:12 PM  
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Here's something I didn't expect: remember Colin Brown?
Hilariously terrible 5th round selection by Scott ***** in the famed horrific 2009 draft class?

Something like the 57th rated tackle that year?

He just got a two-year extension with the Buffalo Bills, who play him at guard but really like him at center:

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Best fit as a center (he can also play guard and even tackle), Brown was placed on the injured reserve back in October with hamstring injury, as it seemed like every Bills offensive lineman was going down with some sort of an ailment. Brown looked solid in the lone game he played this season, as he was thrust into the starting line-up at right guard in the blowout loss against the San Francisco 49ers. Brown, who filled in for Kraig Urbik (out with a high-ankle sprain), made a strong impact during his time in the game as both a run blocker and pass protector.

Generally well-liked by the fans, Colin Brown was expected to get roughly $1.3 million in restricted free agency on a one-year tender, and instead he will be getting a little bit over $1.4 million for two seasons. Still, Brown’s spot on the Buffalo Bills 2013 53-man roster is far from guaranteed, but he should be able to make it through training camp and the preseason with a spot on the roster. Brown, again, showed some promise against the 49ers and has the kind of versatility that makes him a valuable backup offensive lineman in the NFL.
The NFL, man. You never know.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:19 PM   #121
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there is a reason he took a 10 million paycut to a 4 million one, not only because his agent told him to, but what ****ing team was he going to land on and play

certainly not a 34 defense willing to pay him 4 million. He wasnt beating any other teams 34 DEs out for a starting job. Hence the paycut.
You're almost certainly wrong.

3-4 teams are almost always starving for DEs. It's a very tough position, and asks for very specific measurements.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:21 PM   #122
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Again, you are fundamentally misunderstanding.
I don't think so.

Tony Moeaki (when healthy) and Jon Asamoah are starting caliber players.

Tyson Jackson is not.

Very simple.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:22 PM   #123
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Constantly calling out people for false dichotomies when that's the only metric you are capable of thinking in, as evidenced by this thread.
Yes, indeed. What was I thinking, accusing you of hyperbole. Oh wait:

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They are completely worthless. Completely worthless > O'Connell.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:23 PM   #124
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If Tyson Jackson doesn't offer my team anything more than Ropati Pitutarygland, he's not starting caliber.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:26 PM   #125
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What has O'Connell done to ever prove his worth? Stay on the Chiefs roster with Scott Pioli as GM?
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A good reserve tight end is someone like Ted Popson, not guys who should be selling insurance like Jake O'Connell.
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What has O'Connell done to ever prove his worth? Stay on the Chiefs roster with Scott ***** as GM?
He's been a mediocre blocker and a bad receiver.

I don't know what worth you place on a 7th rounder, but that sounds about right.

What did Michael Allan or Mike Merritt do?
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They got cut immediately, which is what should have happened during the first round of cuts in O'Connell's first PS.
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They got cut immediately, which is what should have happened during the first round of cuts in O'Connell's first PS.
They actually didn't get cut immediately.

Mike Merritt was injured when he was drafted. He healed for the first half of the season, during which he was busted with possession.

From there: his contributions were something in the vicinity of 0 tackles on special teams, and 0 snaps on offense.

I could get into Michael Allan, but I think that pretty much proves my point.
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Again: in 2 of of his 4 pro seasons, Tyson Jackson has been outperformed by street trash.

If he's starting caliber, so are guys like Turk McBride.
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Just curious, but where did he rank in '11?
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Just curious, but where did he rank in '11?
11th.

I think he was more motivated, because it was basically a do or die year for him. Looked lazy as **** last year.
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