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Old 09-16-2012, 07:00 PM  
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What happens first...?

Say something has to change...

What change does Scott make first to give the impression he is trying to fix this team...

Simply select which one you think happens first.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:29 PM   #31
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Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if we traded for Matt Moore this week. Two horrific losses, and his scapegoat is now OC in Pittsburgh. Perhaps his love for Matt Cassel and his ego will override his self-preservation instincts, but I doubt it.
How far have we fallen that we are clamoring for the likes of Kyle Orton and Matt Moore


and can get either.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:30 PM   #32
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No way Crennel gets fired this year. Zero chance. NFL coaches don't lose their job after one year. Especially for by uninvolved ownership like the Hunts.

Pioli bought himself an extension by firing Haley early. He put himself in a spot where it would be too reactionary to fire him before Crennel had a chance to build his team.

It's this vicious cycle of holdovers from previous regimes. KC is the worst at it. They always try to cling to the good when they bring in someone new, then when that doesn't work they have to give the guy a chance with his own people. Rinse, repeat. They never go all in, flush completely, and start from scratch. What it has given us is decades of never truly bad, yet decades of never enough change to make a revolutionary step forward.

It's literally like a mashup of the best ways to keep assess in the seats on an annual basis while maximizing profit and never risking full blown failure.

Their approach to QBs is just a trickle down of the entire organizational mindset.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:31 PM   #33
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It's RAC's last shot at HC.

I think he goes down making his own calls. Perhaps fired by week 8 but he does his own thing...
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:32 PM   #34
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Pioli won't let it happen.

He knows he's ****ed with Quinn anyway.

Orton could have saved Pioli's job, and I said it MONTHS ago.

Fail, Fat Scott.
He may not have a choice.

Some said we won because of Crennel/Haley being gone... not because of Orton.

It's become obvious that it was more Orton. And while Quinn may be no Orton... Cassel damn sure ain't.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:33 PM   #35
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Fire Pioli AND Crennel.....

Bring in the Chin and let him have the complete control he wants.


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Old 09-16-2012, 07:34 PM   #36
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:34 PM   #37
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No way Crennel gets fired this year. Zero chance. NFL coaches don't lose their job after one year. Especially for by uninvolved ownership like the Hunts.
Cam Cameron on line 1.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:34 PM   #38
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Has ANY GM in NFL history ever been granted a third head coach after failing on two hires in four years? JFC
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:35 PM   #39
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Cassel showed Pioli enough in the first half last week for him not to make a change to the QB position for a couple of years.

I really think there are some players that show flashes of good play that cause the decision makers to think that player just needs better personell around him to succeed. I think these players are coach killers. For whatever reason they just cannot be consistant.
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Cassel showed Pioli enough in the first half last week for him not to make a change to the QB position for a couple of years.

I really think there are some players that show flashes of good play that cause the decision makers to think that player just needs better personell around him to succeed. I think these players are coach killers. For whatever reason they just cannot be consistant.
A good GM knows what they have in a player - and their limitations.

Pioli wont admit it.

Here's the thing: We've hired 3 coordinator-at-best types in a row to be Head Coach for this franchise.

We've made questionable decisions in the draft.

This is ALL on Pioli.

Is it:

A) talent, but poor coaching?
B) lack of talent/talent-assessment?
C) both?

Either of the three above - STILL on Pioli
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Fire Pioli AND Crennel.....

Bring in the Chin and let him have the complete control he wants.


Flame away.....
I'm in...
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #42
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A good GM knows what they have in a player - and their limitations.

Pioli wont admit it.

Here's the thing: We've hired 3 coordinator-at-best types in a row to be Head Coach for this franchise.

We've made questionable decisions in the draft.

This is ALL on Pioli.

Is it:

A) talent, but poor coaching?
B) lack of talent/talent-assessment?
C) both?

Either of the three above - STILL on Pioli
I don't disagree with you at all.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #43
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Cassel showed Pioli enough in the first half last week for him not to make a change to the QB position for a couple of years.
First half of game one of the regular season after three... or four... very vanilla preseason games.

Halftime adjustments, and a week to watch tape for the Bills, and our offense does nothing outside of garbage time.

One good half won't last forever.
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Cassel showed Pioli enough in the first half last week for him not to make a change to the QB position for a couple of years.

I really think there are some players that show flashes of good play that cause the decision makers to think that player just needs better personell around him to succeed. I think these players are coach killers. For whatever reason they just cannot be consistant.
You notice how Ca$$hole has no fear of throwing deep once the pressure is off (meaning we're so far down we'll lose anyway?)

What if, and I'm just speculating here because I know it won't happen, he did that BEFORE we were down by 21 pts?...
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