Mock (3/12/13)

Direckshun · **Mock (3/12/13)**

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs trade Cassel for a 6th round pick.

2. The Chiefs retain Glenn Dorsey.

3. They get one compensatory pick, an extra third (Carr).

4. The Chiefs try furiously to trade down, but there are no takers.

On with the show:

1. OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M

Until I see a long-term deal for Albert, I'm certain this is the pick. Sigh.

3. QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse

I imagine Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Mike Glennon go in the 1st. EJ Emanuel and Tyler Bray go in the second.

That leaves Ryan Nassib and Tyler Wilson atop the 3rd for the Chiefs. The Chiefs prefer to go with a natural leader with pretty good decision making and the ability to take care of the ball.

3. OLB Corey Lemonier, Auburn

A 4.60 40 yard dash with 34+" arms? Yes, god. What might spook teams is his mere 5.5 sacks last year, but he was playing on a bad ankle.

4. ILB Nico Johnson, Alabama

Johnson makes too much sense as the sam backer in our defense.

5. C Brian Schwenke, California

I've heard basically zero word on Rodney Hudson. Everybody comes back from a knee differently. I like Luke Patterson a ton as a backup center, but it's clear that the past regime didn't, and this one has zero loyalty to him.

Schwenke's a solid zone-blocker who is still a bit of a work in progress, but I could live with him as a patch for part of 2013 if I had to.

6. TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA

The Chiefs need receiver help at this position. Fauria is 6'7" and a decent route runner.

6. WR Chris Harper, Kansas State

Some depth for a WR unit. There are no really good speedsters here so I just go with the best set of hands.

7. ILB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina

A really impressive physical specimen, Holloman suffers from being a tweener -- too big to play safety, too small perhaps to play linebacker. Except that this team has zero athleticism behind Derrick Johnson at the ILB position, so he could have a home here.

Direckshun · 03-12-2013, 07:27 AM

QB: Smith, Nassib, Stanzi
RB: Charles, Gray, Droughn, Eachus
FB: DiMarco

WR: Bowe, Baldwin, McCluster, Harper, Wylie
TE: Moeaki, Maneri, Fauria

LT: Albert, Stephenson
LG: Allen, Hochstein
C: Hudson, Schwenke
RG: Asamoah, Hochstein
RT: Joeckel, Stephenson

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Poe, Powe, Toribio
DE: Jackson, Muir

OLB: Hali, Jones
ILB: Johnson, Sturdivant
ILB: Johnson, Holloman
OLB: Houston, Lemonier

CB: Flowers, Robinson, Arenas, Daniels, Brown
S: Berry, Abdullah, Lewis, Menzie

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford

**buddha** · 03-12-2013, 09:10 AM

Seriously...what team is going to take Glennon in the first round? Talk about a pissed off fan base??? I'm not sold on Nassib either.

jd1020 · 03-12-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Seriously...what team is going to take Glennon in the first round? Talk about a pissed off fan base??? I'm not sold on Nassib either.

Nassib is exactly what this franchise targets for its QBs. Safe, mediocre trash.

**The Franchise** · 03-12-2013, 09:59 AM

I don't think Nassib lasts till the 3rd. I think the Bills target him in the 2nd.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-12-2013, 10:16 AM

This is my favorite of your mocks (rds 3-6), which probably means it's unrealistic.

DJ's left nut · 03-12-2013, 02:48 PM

Well Dorsey's gone and I feel your Cassel projection is a tad optimistic. Moreover, I don't see any way the Chiefs could 'furiously' try to trade down and find no takers, not with the Eagles obvious interest in Smith and the Bills cutting Fitzpatrick.

I will not accept the "we tried but couldn't" excuse this year. It doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test.

**RealSNR** · 03-12-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well Dorsey's gone and I feel your Cassel projection is a tad optimistic. Moreover, I don't see any way the Chiefs could 'furiously' try to trade down and find no takers, not with the Eagles obvious interest in Smith and the Bills cutting Fitzpatrick.

I will not accept the "we tried but couldn't" excuse this year. It doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test.

If I had a time machine back in the fall and caught myself pining for a trade down like I am now, I would have killed myself on the spot. On the ****ing spot.

But now that I am, I think if we've learned one thing about Pioli, it's that "we tried" means "we were open to it if we didn't have to make any sacrifices whatsoever." Everything from acquiring ANY legit QB prospect in four years of drafts to searching for a head coach and offensive coordinator to getting Dwayne Bowe's deal done suggests that the options were ALWAYS available. And I imagine with the thread coming out that a trade down in 2009 WAS possible but not taken by Pioli, it leads me to believe that we could have been so much better off for doing that.

Dorsey signed Bowe for an entirely reasonable amount of money and got Tyson Jackson to STFD and

. I'll bet he finds a trade down partner.

jd1020 · 03-12-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

If I had a time machine back in the fall and caught myself pining for a trade down like I am now, I would have killed myself on the spot. On the ****ing spot.

But now that I am, I think if we've learned one thing about *****, it's that "we tried" means "we were open to it if we didn't have to make any sacrifices whatsoever." Everything from acquiring ANY legit QB prospect in four years of drafts to searching for a head coach and offensive coordinator to getting Dwayne Bowe's deal done suggests that the options were ALWAYS available. And I imagine with the thread coming out that a trade down in 2009 WAS possible but not taken by *****, it leads me to believe that we could have been so much better off for doing that.

Dorsey signed Bowe for an entirely reasonable amount of money and got Tyson Jackson to STFD and

. I'll bet he finds a trade down partner.

I dunno... So far this feels a lot like deja vu.

Direckshun · 03-12-2013, 02:54 PM

Right. It seems we're getting DeVito now.

That's fine. I was going off rumors from yesterday on both Dorsey and Cassel.

Which in today's NFL, I might as well be going off rumors from eight years ago.

Hoover · 03-12-2013, 04:08 PM

I didn't know we could get a 6th round pick from an arena league team. Cool!

Direckshun · 03-12-2013, 04:38 PM

Needless to say, there will be revisions coming.

Saccopoo · 03-12-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Needless to say, there will be revisions coming.

What? Don't you have Mock (3/13/13) to work on?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-12-2013, 09:00 PM

Best one so far, even if the first two picks would cause a spike in drifter executions.

03-12-2013, 07:25 AM	Topic Starter
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	Mock (3/12/13) Assumptions: 1. The Chiefs trade Cassel for a 6th round pick. 2. The Chiefs retain Glenn Dorsey. 3. They get one compensatory pick, an extra third (Carr). 4. The Chiefs try furiously to trade down, but there are no takers. On with the show: 1. OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M Until I see a long-term deal for Albert, I'm certain this is the pick. Sigh. 3. QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse I imagine Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Mike Glennon go in the 1st. EJ Emanuel and Tyler Bray go in the second. That leaves Ryan Nassib and Tyler Wilson atop the 3rd for the Chiefs. The Chiefs prefer to go with a natural leader with pretty good decision making and the ability to take care of the ball. 3. OLB Corey Lemonier, Auburn A 4.60 40 yard dash with 34+" arms? Yes, god. What might spook teams is his mere 5.5 sacks last year, but he was playing on a bad ankle. 4. ILB Nico Johnson, Alabama Johnson makes too much sense as the sam backer in our defense. 5. C Brian Schwenke, California I've heard basically zero word on Rodney Hudson. Everybody comes back from a knee differently. I like Luke Patterson a ton as a backup center, but it's clear that the past regime didn't, and this one has zero loyalty to him. Schwenke's a solid zone-blocker who is still a bit of a work in progress, but I could live with him as a patch for part of 2013 if I had to. 6. TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA The Chiefs need receiver help at this position. Fauria is 6'7" and a decent route runner. 6. WR Chris Harper, Kansas State Some depth for a WR unit. There are no really good speedsters here so I just go with the best set of hands. 7. ILB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina A really impressive physical specimen, Holloman suffers from being a tweener -- too big to play safety, too small perhaps to play linebacker. Except that this team has zero athleticism behind Derrick Johnson at the ILB position, so he could have a home here.
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03-12-2013, 07:27 AM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	QB: Smith, Nassib, Stanzi RB: Charles, Gray, Droughn, Eachus FB: DiMarco WR: Bowe, Baldwin, McCluster, Harper, Wylie TE: Moeaki, Maneri, Fauria LT: Albert, Stephenson LG: Allen, Hochstein C: Hudson, Schwenke RG: Asamoah, Hochstein RT: Joeckel, Stephenson DE: Dorsey, Bailey NT: Poe, Powe, Toribio DE: Jackson, Muir OLB: Hali, Jones ILB: Johnson, Sturdivant ILB: Johnson, Holloman OLB: Houston, Lemonier CB: Flowers, Robinson, Arenas, Daniels, Brown S: Berry, Abdullah, Lewis, Menzie K: Succop P: Colquitt LS: Gafford
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03-12-2013, 09:10 AM	#3
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Seriously...what team is going to take Glennon in the first round? Talk about a pissed off fan base??? I'm not sold on Nassib either.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3039099	Well Dorsey's gone and I feel your Cassel projection is a tad optimistic. Moreover, I don't see any way the Chiefs could 'furiously' try to trade down and find no takers, not with the Eagles obvious interest in Smith and the Bills cutting Fitzpatrick. I will not accept the "we tried but couldn't" excuse this year. It doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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03-12-2013, 02:54 PM	#10
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	Right. It seems we're getting DeVito now. That's fine. I was going off rumors from yesterday on both Dorsey and Cassel. Which in today's NFL, I might as well be going off rumors from eight years ago.
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