Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 40

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

tooge · 03-07-2013, 08:50 AM

Andy Reid knows this league is pass driven. He's tried to have solid defensive backfields, pass rushers, receivers, and quarterbacks, and O lines, his entire tenure in Philly. Dorsey likes his LB's, tight ends, receivers, and D linemen. It's an interesting dynamic, and looks like a good duo to have picking our drafts.

**buddha** · 03-07-2013, 10:44 AM

I have believed since the Alex Smith trade, and the other subsequent moves, that the Chiefs could draft their highest rated player, regardless of position. That could be Geno...it could be somebody else. I think Alex has three years in him. There would be nothing wrong with bringing in a guy with Geno's ability and grooming him the old fashioned way. He's not NFL ready according to many evaluations. Fine...draft and develop.

**Canofbier** · 03-07-2013, 10:50 AM

I don't know, folks... Until we've either signed a FA RT or signed Albert long-term, my faith that we'll be picking Geno at 1.1 is dwindling.

**Rausch** · 03-07-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

I don't know, folks... Until we've either signed a FA RT or signed Albert long-term, my faith that we'll be picking Geno at 1.1 is dwindling.

I think we'll do all we can to move down...

Mr. Laz · 03-07-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

I have believed since the Alex Smith trade, and the other subsequent moves, that the Chiefs could draft their highest rated player, regardless of position. That could be Geno...it could be somebody else. I think Alex has three years in him. There would be nothing wrong with bringing in a guy with Geno's ability and grooming him the old fashioned way. He's not NFL ready according to many evaluations. Fine...draft and develop.

you really think the Chiefs are ready to got into the season with Donaldson as their starting RT?

Imo the only real hope for Geno Smith is if the Chiefs are so active in Free Agency that all the draft picks are a complete luxury.

**BossChief** · 03-07-2013, 10:54 AM

We will have 15 million in cap space and the top two right tackles in the NFL are free agents. I don't think Winston could pass a physical and that his back is ****ed.

The Texans cut him for a failed physical, too.

Mr. Laz · 03-07-2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha

I have believed since the Alex Smith trade, and the other subsequent moves, that the Chiefs could draft their highest rated player, regardless of position. That could be Geno...it could be somebody else. I think Alex has three years in him. There would be nothing wrong with bringing in a guy with Geno's ability and grooming him the old fashioned way. He's not NFL ready according to many evaluations. Fine...draft and develop.

you really think the Chiefs are ready to go into the season with Donaldson as their starting RT?

Imo the only real hope for Geno Smith is if the Chiefs are so active in Free Agency that all the draft picks are a complete luxury.

**loochy** · 03-07-2013, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier

I don't know, folks... Until we've either signed a FA RT or signed Albert long-term, my faith that we'll be picking Geno at 1.1 is dwindling.

Lol you said FART. We already got one in Alex Smith though...

**buddha** · 03-07-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

you really think the Chiefs are ready to go into the season with Donaldson as their starting RT?

Imo the only real hope for Geno Smith is if the Chiefs are so active in Free Agency that all the draft picks are a complete luxury.

Ask me after they waive Winston. Otherwise...of course not. We don't need to spend the first pick in the f'ing draft on a RT, do we?

It's all going to work out Laz..you'll see.

CoMoChief · 03-07-2013, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier

I don't know, folks... Until we've either signed a FA RT or signed Albert long-term, my faith that we'll be picking Geno at 1.1 is dwindling.

LOL......fart

B14ckmon · 03-07-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

If wanting to bang Boxxy makes one a creep, I don't wanna be anything else!

Using her as your avatar/signature/constantly posting gifs of her, is super ****ing creepy.

Also, close this thread down. The fat lady has sung.

Prison Bitch · 03-07-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge

Andy Reid knows this league is pass driven. He's tried to have solid defensive backfields, pass rushers, receivers, and quarterbacks, and O lines, his entire tenure in Philly. .

Doesn't that describe 3/4 of the players on the field?

**loochy** · 03-07-2013, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Doesn't that describe 3/4 of the players on the field?

i guess he doesn't like linebackers, running backs, or special teams

Direckshun · 03-07-2013, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Using her as your avatar/signature/constantly posting gifs of her, is super ****ing creepy.

Also, close this thread down. The fat lady has sung.

B14ckmon · 03-07-2013, 12:23 PM

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1601925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $4024112	Andy Reid knows this league is pass driven. He's tried to have solid defensive backfields, pass rushers, receivers, and quarterbacks, and O lines, his entire tenure in Philly. Dorsey likes his LB's, tight ends, receivers, and D linemen. It's an interesting dynamic, and looks like a good duo to have picking our drafts.
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buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	I have believed since the Alex Smith trade, and the other subsequent moves, that the Chiefs could draft their highest rated player, regardless of position. That could be Geno...it could be somebody else. I think Alex has three years in him. There would be nothing wrong with bringing in a guy with Geno's ability and grooming him the old fashioned way. He's not NFL ready according to many evaluations. Fine...draft and develop.
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Canofbier ¡RIOS MIO! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minneapolis Casino cash: $6076981	I don't know, folks... Until we've either signed a FA RT or signed Albert long-term, my faith that we'll be picking Geno at 1.1 is dwindling.
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