Other Sports Colorado Rockies finally caught cheating? What do you think?

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 12:11 AM

The vid will prob be taken down soon due to the MLB's whiny bitch asses though.

blaise · 09-25-2010, 12:19 AM

How is that he caught them cheating? How do you know he doesn't just think the ball wasn'r scuffed up enough for his liking, or something? Did he comment about it afterwards?

Jewish Rabbi · 09-25-2010, 12:20 AM

lol wut

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 12:21 AM

You can see him saying, "****ing juiced balls that's bullshit."

Sorry should have mentioned that.

blaise · 09-25-2010, 12:28 AM

He's pitching his 6th scoreless inning there, so how bad could it be?

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise

He's pitching his 6th scoreless inning there, so how bad could it be?

The theory is that if the Rockies aren't winning, late in the game they send in balls that have not been in the humidor, during their turn at bat, and once they get the lead they go back to the humidor balls.

The Rockies home record is 51-25, which is 3rd best in the major leagues. Their road record (where they don't control the balls) is 31-46, good for 10th worst in baseball.

This has been a huge rumor all year.

Pitt Gorilla · 09-25-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckinSmurf

The theory is that if the Rockies aren't winning, late in the game they send in balls that have not been in the humidor, during their turn at bat, and once they get the lead they go back to the humidor balls.

The Rockies home record is 51-25, which is 3rd best in the major leagues. Their road record (where they don't control the balls) is 31-46, good for 10th worst in baseball.

This has been a huge rumor all year.

It's been a lot longer than a year, IIRC.

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

It's been a lot longer than a year, IIRC.

Yeah, its been since 2007.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-25-2010, 12:46 AM

It's an interesting theory, but is there any evidence to substantiate that? It's a unique environment anyway, so traditional W-L records at home should be taken into consideration.

Hell, look at the disparity in the Cardinals W-L at home, and they have a completely neutral park.

Jerm · 09-25-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's an interesting theory, but is there any evidence to substantiate that? It's a unique environment anyway, so traditional W-L records at home should be taken into consideration.

Hell, look at the disparity in the Cardinals W-L at home, and they have a completely neutral park.

That's what makes me think they could easily get away it...all they gotta do is blame the altitude or whatever and no one really thinks about it.

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's an interesting theory, but is there any evidence to substantiate that? It's a unique environment anyway, so traditional W-L records at home should be taken into consideration.

Hell, look at the disparity in the Cardinals W-L at home, and they have a completely neutral park.

Yeah, that's an astute observation.

I was reading an article about "juiced balls" yesterday actually, and the author talked about what a "Juiced ball" means. He also said that the pitchers should be able to tell if a ball is juiced based on feel alone. Strange that one day later Lincecum felt it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-25-2010, 12:59 AM

FWIW, the juiced ball theory of the 1990s and 2000s has been wholly debunked by numerous separate studies. That said, The ball will travel farther in that air, and baseball teams have a long history of cheating in a variety of ways, most notably the 1950 Giants employing spies in the OF scoreboard to steal signs that many felt led to Bobby Thompson's HR.

**Buck** · 09-25-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, the juiced ball theory of the 1990s and 2000s has been wholly debunked by numerous separate studies. That said, The ball will travel farther in that air, and baseball teams have a long history of cheating in a variety of ways, most notably the 1950 Giants employing spies in the OF scoreboard to steal signs that many felt led to Bobby Thompson's HR.

In this case, "Juiced" means not placed in a humidor.

clyde05 · 09-25-2010, 01:05 AM

so that explains why olivio is hitting, got it now, wonder if the blue jays are doing that for buck too or maybe it just the roids supplied to buck by bautista

KC_Connection · 09-25-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, the juiced ball theory of the 1990s and 2000s has been wholly debunked by numerous separate studies.

Care to link those studies?

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